H-1B visas must end’: Wife of US citizen shares plight of landing IT jobs

@Meengla sb

You need to go into finer details. You are right that if an H1B earns say USD 100K in US, if his job and he are shipped back he will only earn only USD 25K or so in IND. But do remember that of the 100K he earns in US, a lot of it is given up as taxes, social security and consumption in US whereas in the latter case the entire money stays in IND. Plus, if that H1B job is an India based company, it makes a higher corporate profit in India in the second case.

Yes, net net there is a loss to India as a whole (and of course to the employee) but maybe not so much.

Regards
 
SoulSpokesman said:
You are right that if an H1B earns say USD 100K in US, if his job and he are shipped back he will only earn only USD 25K or so in IND. But do remember that of the 100K he earns in US, a lot of it is given up as taxes, social security and consumption in US whereas in the latter case the entire money stays in IND
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Firstly, I dispute that $100k's taxes etc would be that much of an impact vs the $25k in India. Secondly, Indians often stay in America, become citizens, then send Remittance, bring more Indians to America, chain immigration, more Remittance to India, create a large Indian diaspora for lobbying... Notice how many Indians in Trump administration vs they were in the Bill Clinton 1992 administration?
And also, those Indians who, mostly reluctantly, DO go back to India, take home new skills, new knowledge and do things in better, more efficient ways, so that's also a gain from sending Indians to Western nations.
 
Meengla said:
You are coping. Indians are worried about losing significant amount of the $140 BBBillion / year business which comes from Indians' presence in America. And that's why lobbies are working to mitigate for the H1B changes.
There is no way Bangalore is going to generate enough to make up for the loss or India will be able to provide the same income to Indian workers as they get in America. But then... eventually, like water flows downhill, Capital also follows profit and they come from cheaper labor. Eventually...
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India gets around usd 35B a year from the US. Even reports on the new H1B rules say the impact on remittances would be under usd 5B, these changes will just move more of those jobs directly to India. Trade deals are moving well and likely to be finalised soon, and GCC setups are expanding faster than ever. So yes, our system and diplomats are busy handling real economic stakes.

On your side, no such silly worries for your diplomats, just waiting to see if the next White House lunch invite arrives.
 
vasanthm said:
Trade deals are moving well and likely to be finalised soon, and GCC setups are expanding faster than ever. So yes, our system and diplomats are busy handling real economic stakes.
On your side, no such silly worries for your diplomats, just waiting to see if the next White House lunch invite arrives.
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As long as your work hard, no issues you succeed. That's how things should work. But you are wrong about Pakistan's diplomacy. It is the best diplomacy I have seen since the 1970s ZAB era.
 
SoulSpokesman said:
@Meengla sb

It is the best diplomacy I have seen since the 1970s ZAB era.

Undoubtedly, 2025 has been an annus mirabilis for Pakistani diplomacy.

Regards
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I would say Pakistan has walked into an India sized diplomatic green patch.

SoulSpokesman said:
@r3alist bro

why not more of the Danes, Japanese, Austrians, swiss etc

Too expensive.

Regards
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Why is that a problem? H1b is for this purpose, important talent
 
SoulSpokesman said:
@r3alist bro

you've had a good few decades heavily within the American tech ecosystem.

You need to ask yourself the next logical question. Or rather your countries' policymakers should.

Why Indians, not Pakistanis? Or at least why not both- in a say 7:1 ratio.

Remember that until 1991, you were far closer to USA than IND was. And at least until around 2010, you were at least as close to them as IND was.

Regards
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Because India has been successful in building the human trafficking supply chain. Neither Pakistanis nor Chinese are as successful.
 
@nang2

The same Q again. Why has Pak not been able to build the "human trafficking supply chain"? If it can build a supply chain for supply of beggars in Saudi Arabia why not code coolies for the West?

Regards
 
r3alist said:
These GCC's, which I only know a bit about, seem to offer more than just offshore it. some aspects of analytics or risk and even enterprise risk are going there..... I think.

I think you have to bake into consideration that the general workforce in India is more experienced and skilled than 10 years ago.

So they will look to be more ambitious, they even claim artificial intelligence implementation 😇
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Most well run companies have tight controls over their offshore operations. It is not like one manager running the show in India reporting to executive in USA. You would have 15 teams in India reporting to 10 different managers in USA. A lot of the 15 teams in India would not deal with each other. In some cases they would not even know the existence of other teams

Even something like cybersecurity the grunt work can be done in India with management/expert in USA analyzing the grunt work.
 
@nahtanbob

Nathan Anna,

the grunt work can be done in India with management/expert in USA

Hopefully, Indians on both sides....

Regards
 
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