HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[SABRE]

IMO, it would be better for India to shift resources and efforts from Tejas to AMCA. Going by the trends it seems unlikely that HAL is going to meet the deadline on Tejas and might end up delaying AMCA as well.

 

[Yasser76]

GE would never deliver 32 engine as even they themselves not committing that. Not even 0.00000001% of chance but Indian can live in delusion.

Yup, US having own supply issues and now European procurement is ramping up too.

As mentioned, this plane is as dead as a Dodo. Even MK2 looking shakey.

My guess is after 2024 IAF as made the decision, as per their ACM, 'technology delayed is technology denied". They probably analysed what happened 7th May and realised no real point of MK1A anymore.

What air force in it's right mind would, in 2026, want to take delivery of an unproven 4th Gen fighter, with engine supply issues, short range and no real BVR integration.

This is it, slowly now IAF, Indian media and Modi gov will move populations focus to AMCA.

Poor little MK1A will be forgotten about in a small air base in a few hangers. Exact same story as Arjun tank.

 

[Yasser76]

The 25 years spent developing the Tejas Mk1 laid the foundation for India to develop the Tejas Mk1A in just 3 years and simultaneously work on the Tejas Mk2 and AMCA. The time and money invested in building the aerospace ecosystem will continue to pay off and drive future progress. Kaveri engine also failed to power Tejas, but the knowledge and experience gained from that effort have enabled India to launch a new 110 kN engine program.

yes, it helped knowledge and experiance for sure. Did it provide a low cost, effective fighters on time and in numbers?

No.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

GE would never deliver 32 engines as they themselves aren't even committing to that. There isn't even a 0.00000001% chance, and it's been known for a long time that India could develop Tejas with an alternate engine, but Indians love to live in delusion. For HAL, timelines are among the least important things and consistently relegated to the bottom of their priorities.

If U.S. blocks the sale of fighter jet engines to India, I would welcome it—because it would only accelerate indigenous fighter jet engine development. India today has cryogenic engines, nuclear submarines, ICBMs, hypersonic cruise missiles, and a globally respected space program—all of which were developed after U.S. imposed sanctions following India’s 1974 nuclear tests, restricting access to cryogenic engine, missile, and space technologies.

 

[Yasser76]

If U.S. blocks the sale of fighter jet engines to India, I would welcome it—because it would only accelerate indigenous fighter jet engine development. India today has cryogenic engines, nuclear submarines, ICBMs, hypersonic cruise missiles, and a globally respected space program—all of which were developed after U.S. imposed sanctions following India’s 1974 nuclear tests, restricting access to cryogenic engine, missile, and space technologies.

How does any of the above relate to Tejas MK1A not being in service?

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

yes, it helped knowledge and experiance for sure. Did it provide a low cost, effective fighters on time and in numbers?

No.

India is able to upgrade the Su-30MKI with indigenous components largely due to the experience and capabilities developed through the Tejas program. Russian avionics are now being entirely replaced with Indian systems, and many Russian components of the airframe and even parts of the engine are gradually being substituted with Indian-made alternatives.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

If U.S. blocks the sale of fighter jet engines to India, I would welcome it—because it would only accelerate indigenous fighter jet engine development. India today has cryogenic engines, nuclear submarines, ICBMs, hypersonic cruise missiles, and a globally respected space program—all of which were developed after U.S. imposed sanctions following India’s 1974 nuclear tests, restricting access to cryogenic engine, missile, and space technologies.

Dear What you are saying actually contains the right question, which some people have not addressed. As long as those some people remain, nothing will change. Unfortunately for India they are not accountable.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

Dear What you are saying actually contains the right question, which some people have not addressed. As long as those some people remain, nothing will change. Unfortunately for India they are not accountable.

Gradually, the Indian Air Force will also become 90% indigenous, much like the Indian Navy. The Indian Army is also already significantly indigenized and operates the world’s second-largest fleet of combat vehicles—second only to the United States—all of which are developed and mass-produced domestically.

 

[Yasser76]

Gradually, the Indian Air Force will also become 90% indigenous, much like the Indian Navy. The Indian Army is also already significantly indigenized and operates the world’s second-largest fleet of combat vehicles—second only to the United States—all of which are developed and mass-produced domestically.
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Great, you can make armoured cars like pretty much every medium and large size nation on earth. Well done, what has this to do with Tejas project?

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Gradually, the Indian Air Force will also become 90% indigenous, much like the Indian Navy. The Indian Army is also already significantly indigenized and operates the world’s second-largest fleet of combat vehicles—second only to the United States—all of which are developed and mass-produced domestically.
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Dear you people needs to come out of this "will happen" mentality. Concentrate on "what is done along with its accountability". Mark my words, nothing significant will happen in the right time unless this mentality changes.

Right question is why India is successful in those which you mentioned in earlier post and why not in projects like Tejas? Any answer you have?

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Gradually, the Indian Air Force will also become 90% indigenous, much like the Indian Navy. The Indian Army is also already significantly indigenized and operates the world’s second-largest fleet of combat vehicles—second only to the United States—all of which are developed and mass-produced domestically.
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and indigenization is good when it's not couple with loss of capability and happened in right time.

Honestly speaking anything below AMCA is waste of time and resources for India now as in earlier post Yasir also mentioned that. India adversary is China and Pakistan, not Srilanka, BD and myanmar.

 

[hussain0216]

IMO, it would be better for India to shift resources and efforts from Tejas to AMCA. Going by the trends it seems unlikely that HAL is going to meet the deadline on Tejas and might end up delaying AMCA as well.

I don't see the point of Tejas anymore

India has enough planes for the moment at least

If AMCA is it's 5th Gen option, then it needs to sink resources into the project to get it made and delivered ASAP

India might need a Su57 purchase to cover some years


India would be better placed if it spent it's finance on upgrading the SU35s and getting more Rafael's


The time for Tejas was 20 years ago, at a minimum india might need the Tejas 2 for numbers but is it worth sinking money into the platform

 

[TopGun786]

"If" seems to be the word that had dogged this project for 25 years.

If.... If... If....
That's all we are hearing since decades.

 

[Yasser76]

I don't see the point of Tejas anymore

India has enough planes for the moment at least

If AMCA is it's 5th Gen option, then it needs to sink resources into the project to get it made and delivered ASAP

India might need a Su57 purchase to cover some years


India would be better placed if it spent it's finance on upgrading the SU35s and getting more Rafael's


The time for Tejas was 20 years ago, at a minimum india might need the Tejas 2 for numbers but is it worth sinking money into the platform

yup. If it cannot give India what Rafale, SU-57 or AMCA can in terms of capability then simply not worth moving forward with it.

PAF is moving on from BIII to PFX.

Introducing a 4th gen after 2025 is madness.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

and indigenization is good when it's not couple with loss of capability and happened in right time.

Honestly speaking anything below AMCA is waste of time and resources for India now as in earlier post Yasir also mentioned that. India adversary is China and Pakistan, not Srilanka, BD and myanmar.

I don't see the point of Tejas anymore

India has enough planes for the moment at least

If AMCA is it's 5th Gen option, then it needs to sink resources into the project to get it made and delivered ASAP

India might need a Su57 purchase to cover some years


India would be better placed if it spent it's finance on upgrading the SU35s and getting more Rafael's


The time for Tejas was 20 years ago, at a minimum india might need the Tejas 2 for numbers but is it worth sinking money into the platform

yup. If it cannot give India what Rafale, SU-57 or AMCA can in terms of capability then simply not worth moving forward with it.

PAF is moving on from BIII to PFX.

Introducing a 4th gen after 2025 is madness.

4th-generation fighters will not be obsolete in the 5th-gen era but will shift from frontline dominance to specialized and support roles, especially when paired with networked capabilities. When upgraded, they still offer excellent capability at lower cost in many strategic scenarios.