HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

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Turkish F4 Phantom is a very powerful twin engine jet so it pulled off something like that.

my uneducated guess about Tejas is that possibly the control was already lost and the pilot was making his last efforts to stay in control.

RIP... its really sad to see that Indians on social media are blaming the pilot.

we Pakistanis are cursed by the Military intervention in politics ... but Indians are cursed by the stranglehold and corporate greed of Adanis etc along with their beneficiary Hindutva blowhards.
 
Irfan Baloch said:
my uneducated guess about Tejas is that possibly the control was already lost and the pilot was making his last efforts to stay in control.
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it likely hit an alpha limiter (tejas has aoa lim of 28 degrees) while he was trying to arrest his sink rate, misjudging height, which is why you see the nose maintain its aoa really all the way until it lands flat (fcs will try to push the nose down for recovery once at aoa lim)
 
Ak01 said:
it likely hit an alpha limiter (tejas has aoa lim of 28 degrees) while he was trying to arrest his sink rate, misjudging height, which is why you see the nose maintain its aoa really all the way until it lands flat (fcs will try to push the nose down for recovery once at aoa lim)
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Are you saying the computer wasn't letting the pilot override the built-in auto-correction program?
 
Irfan Baloch said:
Turkish F4 Phantom is a very powerful twin engine jet so it pulled off something like that.

my uneducated guess about Tejas is that possibly the control was already lost and the pilot was making his last efforts to stay in control.

RIP... its really sad to see that Indians on social media are blaming the pilot.

we Pakistanis are cursed by the Military intervention in politics ... but Indians are cursed by the stranglehold and corporate greed of Adanis etc along with their beneficiary Hindutva blowhards.
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It looks like severe pilot misjudgement to me. But will wait for full investigation to complete ofc.

Couple months ago there was F-16 in poland airshow rehearsal which bears uncanny similarity. Doing too much with too little at low altitude.

It was much older warbird (Hunter) in shoreham aircrash, but same issue applies, though the pilot went into blackout, somehow survived the impact (being thrown clear of canopy) and was prosecuted and acquitted for 11 people that died on the ground sadly.
 
Nilgiri said:
It looks like severe pilot misjudgement to me. But will wait for full investigation to complete ofc.

Couple months ago there was F-16 in poland airshow rehearsal which bears uncanny similarity. Doing too much with too little at low altitude.

It was much older warbird (Hunter) in shoreham aircrash, but same issue applies, though the pilot went into blackout, somehow survived the impact (being thrown clear of canopy) and was prosecuted and acquitted for 11 people that died on the ground sadly.
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even if it was the issue with the jet, the pilot is dead RIP
when I saw the last approach of the jet I knew the ground was too close for the pilot to pull it off. I suspect a failure though. since these routines and the entire flight plane are rehearsed, discussed and planned ahead and agreed upon.
 
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even if it was the issue with the jet, the pilot is dead RIP
when I saw the last approach of the jet I knew the ground was too close for the pilot to pull it off. I suspect a failure though. since these routines and the entire flight plane are rehearsed, discussed and planned ahead and agreed upon.
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Yeah I am just saying even with the planning and so on, stuff like this can happen... I dont think its fault with the F-16....compared to pilot not staying top on how much altitude he actually has (it is matter of a few seconds and what has compounded from previous maneuvers and energy vs altitude state at hand etc) regd what he has going on in his head and any G-lock coming into picture and so on. It is of course an ongoing investigation, we will have to compare later next year both of them maybe.

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Former F-16 Polish pilot suggests human error caused air-show crash

A former F-16 pilot has said the fatal crash of a Polish fighter jet ahead of the Radom Air Show in central Poland appeared to have been caused by pilot error rather than a technical fault.
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A former F-16 pilot has said the fatal crash of a Polish fighter jet ahead of the Radom Air Show in central Poland appeared to have been caused by pilot error rather than a technical fault.


“I don’t think it was a problem with the aircraft... it is unheard of,” Krystian Zięć, who personally knew the pilot, Major Maciej “Slab” Krakowian, told TVP World. Zięć described the pilot, Major Krakowian, as “a purely superb human being.”

Polish officials said Krakowian, a leading F-16 demonstration pilot, died when his jet went down during rehearsals on Thursday, prompting the air force to ground most of its F-16 fleet.

Officials are still investigating the tragic accident to determine the cause of the crash.

The biannual Radom Air Show, one of the biggest such events in Europe, has been cancelled following the accident.
 
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