HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[Aghor Warrior]

Also note the em dashes - clearly formatted "air-to-air" and so on.

Written by a model that clearly is not even up to date beyond basic searches(my guess is Grok) and assumes somehow that whoever prompted it for this answer will be the one squeezing out Ghatak's at scale then going onto put in the same hypothetical future state utopia while in reality just likeTejas it is the story that is more fascinating to Indians than the actual status of the program.

The laughable part is that since Kaveri failed miserably underpowered for Tejas and no one really wants to take the blame while everyone wants to save the image - they are hoping that it might still work in dry thrust for Ghatak.

The kitten warrior is yet to be birthed - flight went from 24-25-26-27 but there were garlands thrown around for the Kiran testbed flying.

The problem is that no Indian here will EVER admit that their problem is their own mentality of overblown targets against limited resources and knowledge or roadmaps upon roadmap slides(much like how they work in the corporate world) with gantt charts and systems to log scrum this and scrum that.

Nothing actually being built.

HAL has also developed HTFE-25/40 engine. It produces 25 kN of dry thrust, and an afterburning variant is being designed to produce 40 kN of thrust. This engine is intended for trainer aircraft, a larger variant of the CATS Warrior, and can potentially replace the Adour engines on the Jaguar attack aircraft if IAF decides to keep Jaguar in service. It is currently undergoing certification. HTFE-25 was developed solely by HAL using its own internal funds.

The original Kaveri engine was developed by DRDO. The Kaveri Dry engine has been developed by GTRE, with Godrej as the production partner. Godrej has already delivered two of the eight ordered Kaveri Dry engines for the Ghatak programme. The Kaveri Dry engine has been certified and has entered production; it is no longer in the development phase.

BrahMos Aerospace has been tasked with developing an afterburning section for the Kaveri Dry engine. The same organisation that manufactures engines for the BrahMos missile will work on this afterburner. With the afterburner, the Kaveri is expected to produce around 90 kN of thrust, while also aiming for weight reduction.

At this stage, the afterburning Kaveri is being developed as a capability demonstrator rather than an engine intended to power the Tejas immediately. However, after roughly a decade of further testing and certification, it could potentially replace the GE F404 engines on the Tejas Mk1A.

a picture of the HTFE-25 engine, which HAL developed independently without assistance from GTRE, DRDO, or BrahMos Aerospace.


Kaveri Dry Engine manufactured by Godrej

 

[Yasser76]

HAL has also developed HTFE-25/40 engine. It produces 25 kN of dry thrust, and an afterburning variant is being designed to produce 40 kN of thrust. This engine is intended for trainer aircraft, a larger variant of the CATS Warrior, and can potentially replace the Adour engines on the Jaguar attack aircraft if IAF decides to keep Jaguar in service. It is currently undergoing certification. HTFE-25 was developed solely by HAL using its own internal funds.

The original Kaveri engine was developed by DRDO. The Kaveri Dry engine has been developed by GTRE, with Godrej as the production partner. Godrej has already delivered two of the eight ordered Kaveri Dry engines for the Ghatak programme. The Kaveri Dry engine has been certified and has entered production; it is no longer in the development phase.

BrahMos Aerospace has been tasked with developing an afterburning section for the Kaveri Dry engine. The same organisation that manufactures engines for the BrahMos missile will work on this afterburner. With the afterburner, the Kaveri is expected to produce around 90 kN of thrust, while also aiming for weight reduction.

At this stage, the afterburning Kaveri is being developed as a capability demonstrator rather than an engine intended to power the Tejas immediately. However, after roughly a decade of further testing and certification, it could potentially replace the GE F404 engines on the Tejas Mk1A.

a picture of the HTFE-25 engine, which HAL developed independently without assistance from GTRE, DRDO, or BrahMos Aerospace.
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Kaveri Dry Engine manufactured by Godrej
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All very good, but we have seen "developments", "tests" "Prototypes" and press release after press release. Nothing actually gets delivered to the frontline. HAL massively over promises and under delivers.

No one takes anything seriously anymore, even the IAF CAS said that (in more diplomatic terms)

 

[Aghor Warrior]

All very good, but we have seen "developments", "tests" "Prototypes" and press release after press release. Nothing actually gets delivered to the frontline. HAL massively over promises and under delivers.

No one takes anything seriously anymore, even the IAF CAS said that (in more diplomatic terms)

At least two Dry Kaveri engines have already been delivered to DRDO by Godrej. Godrej is a private company that manufactures Dry Kaveri engines; this is not just a press release.

HTFE-25 engine has also been demonstrated running in a video released by HAL and is currently undergoing certification. It is not merely a press announcement or 3D renders, actual working engines have been built and shown operating.

 

[Yasser76]

At least two Dry Kaveri engines have already been delivered to DRDO by Godrej. Godrej is a private company that manufactures Dry Kaveri engines; this is not just a press release.

HTFE-25 engine has also been demonstrated running in a video released by HAL and is currently undergoing certification. It is not merely a press announcement or 3D renders, actual working engines have been built and shown operating.

Sure, ad HAL has also made 10+ MK1As too, so what?

They can go on doing this for years, but if nothing is in service what is the point?

This circus has been going on for years,, and by the time anything gets into service (if it ever does) it os obsolete

 

[SABRE]

Sure, ad HAL has also made 10+ MK1As too, so what?

They can go on doing this for years, but if nothing is in service what is the point?

This circus has been going on for years,, and by the time anything gets into service (if it ever does) it os obsolete

The bold text is what the IAF has been trying to say all along in so many words.

 

[Deino]

Have these two images already been posted?

(via @Flanker30MKI on X)