HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[Chandragupt Maurya]

We didn’t heard « agar tejas hotay… »

The Tejas MK1A is the answer to the declining squadron strength of the IAF, much like the MiG-21 was in the past. The IAF operated over 800 MiG-21 fighter jets. Just as the MiG-21 served as the workhorse and backbone of the IAF, the Tejas is expected to fill this role and continue to serve for the next 60 years in various blocks, similar to how the F-16 has served the USAF for the past 50 years. any Pakistani fighter jet approaching India will likely encounter the Tejas first, as it is being deployed at the Pakistan border in the same hardened shelters that previously housed the MiG-21.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

I'm.not agreement
The block 70 has f35 level cockpit
The best Aesa radar and beest Ew suites sensor fusion that USA has
The new airframe is far more modern and the TWR and STR are way bigger and better.
In a dog fight and Bvr mark1a. Will.losre energy fast

I would like to know the range of the F-16 radar, the countermeasures it employs to deceive enemy radar, and the RCS of the F-16 Block 70. Since the basic design of all F-16s is the same, it's not possible to change this significantly, doing so would essentially mean creating a new fighter jet from scratch.

 

[harpy1]

The Tejas MK1A is the answer to the declining squadron strength of the IAF, much like the MiG-21 was in the past. The IAF operated over 800 MiG-21 fighter jets. Just as the MiG-21 served as the workhorse and backbone of the IAF, the Tejas is expected to fill this role and continue to serve for the next 60 years in various blocks, similar to how the F-16 has served the USAF for the past 50 years. any Pakistani fighter jet approaching India will likely encounter the Tejas first, as it is being deployed at the Pakistan border in the same hardened shelters that previously housed the MiG-21.

That's not how I see it
I see mark one A stopping at 180
Anything beyond this will be mark two only around same numbers so that's about 350/400max by 2035-2040
Beyond 2040 I see AMCA only

Either way 500 Indian built fighters will be in service by 2045/2050

I also see Rafale //Mki still in service at 100 each in 2050

 

[GatlingGun]

That's not how I see it
I see mark one A stopping at 180
Anything beyond this will be mark two only around same numbers so that's about 350/400max by 2035-2040
Beyond 2040 I see AMCA only

Either way 500 Indian built fighters will be in service by 2045/2050

I also see Rafale //Mki still in service at 100 each in 2050

That's very much accurate analysis. We are only upgrading latest airframes, so only those MKI UPG will survive after 2050.
Older airframes can receive structural replacments for AL Brahmos , they should be accompanied by MKI UPG.

 

[Guynextdoor]

That's not how I see it
I see mark one A stopping at 180
Anything beyond this will be mark two only around same numbers so that's about 350/400max by 2035-2040
Beyond 2040 I see AMCA only

Either way 500 Indian built fighters will be in service by 2045/2050

I also see Rafale //Mki still in service at 100 each in 2050

There will be at least 400+ Tejas Mk1+ MK1A+Mk2+Trainer

It is headed to be one of the most successful programs in the world, just like ALH- at first there were doubts and abuses. When it finally rolled out, decades worth of orders flowed in.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

The composite materials constitute 45% of the airframe by weight and 90% by surface area, the highest among contemporary aircraft.

Yeah but why you guys compare it to F-22? Do you know what composite materials used by F-22 and how much in F-22 airframe?

 

[moonaman.varavayi]

Yeah but why you guys compare it to F-22? Do you know what composite materials used by F-22 and how much in F-22 airframe?

Who has seriously compared Tejas to the F-22? That would be moronic.

@Joe Shearer , please put an end to these pointless comparisons, as they serve no purpose. The Tejas is intended to fulfill a very important role in the IAF force structure, and as of now, looks poised to do so. Members here are comparing it to aircrafts that it doesn't aspire to compete against.

Let this thread be for discussing the Tejas only - its technical merits or lackings, and so on.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Who has seriously compared Tejas to the F-22? That would be moronic.

@Joe Shearer , please put an end to these pointless comparisons, as they serve no purpose. The Tejas is intended to fulfill a very important role in the IAF force structure, and as of now, looks poised to do so. Members here are comparing it to aircrafts that it doesn't aspire to compete against.

Let this thread be for discussing the Tejas only - its technical merits or lackings, and so on.

Completely agree.

Some Indian members, besides you, have expressed embarrassment and discomfort with these meaningless claims. We really need to act on people posting them and supporting them.

Let us discuss it internally and think of a reasonable way forward, without quenching the willingness of members to engage, but with some sensibility demanded in posting.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Who has seriously compared Tejas to the F-22? That would be moronic.

@Joe Shearer , please put an end to these pointless comparisons, as they serve no purpose. The Tejas is intended to fulfill a very important role in the IAF force structure, and as of now, looks poised to do so. Members here are comparing it to aircrafts that it doesn't aspire to compete against.

Let this thread be for discussing the Tejas only - its technical merits or lackings, and so on.

In old PDF you guys are always compare your out of this universe Tejas to F-22 saying that it has more composite material than F-22 lol

 

[Joe Shearer]

In old PDF you guys are always compare your out of this universe Tejas to F-22 saying that it has more composite material than F-22 lol

So do you want to reproduce old PDF and whatever stupidity went on there, on both the Indian and Pakistani sides?

Your choice.

This forum will ultimately be what you (members) make of it.

My advice is, use the opportunity, give it a break, move on.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Yeah but why you guys compare it to F-22? Do you know what composite materials used by F-22 and how much in F-22 airframe?

Tejas cannot be compared to F-22, but it can be compared to the F-16 Block 70, J10C, Gripen, and other 4th generation fighter jets. Like the MiG-21, the Tejas is intended to fulfill a similar role on the India-Pakistan border, where it is capable of shooting down any Pakistani fighter jet approaching India. However, that was not my main point. My point was that in a one-on-one fight between the Tejas MK1A and the F-16 Block 70, the Tejas has the advantage of detecting and engaging the F-16 first, given its radar range and radar cross section.

 

[Yasser76]

a Block 70 will destroy a Tejas on any given day, full stop. if that were not the case you would see so much global interest in MK1A, right now no one is interested

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Tejas cannot be compared to F-22, but it can be compared to the F-16 Block 70, J10C, Gripen, and other 4th generation fighter jets. Like the MiG-21, the Tejas is intended to fulfill a similar role on the India-Pakistan border, where it is capable of shooting down any Pakistani fighter jet approaching India. However, that was not my main point. My point was that in a one-on-one fight between the Tejas MK1A and the F-16 Block 70, the Tejas has the advantage of detecting and engaging the F-16 first, given its radar range and radar cross section.

Lol you're comparing apples to oranges, not comparable to each other, F16 BLK 70 is way way ahead of your out of this universe Tejas in every aspects

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

When claiming that one fighter jet is better than another, the comparison should be based on a one-on-one analysis of the technical specifications of those jets and how they would perform against each other in both BVR and WVR dogfights. In comparing the Tejas Block MK1A with the F-16 Block 70, I find that the Tejas is superior in both BVR and WVR dogfights.

One thing we keep forgetting F16 is war and time tested machine. It is not fair to compare Tejas MK1 with F16 block 70.

Request to Indian members stop comparing until Tejas proves in the war. She will get her chance in the Warfield sooner or later.

 

[Joe Shearer]

My point was that in a one-on-one fight between the Tejas MK1A and the F-16 Block 70, the Tejas has the advantage of detecting and engaging the F-16 first, given its radar range and radar cross section.

This is at the root of my request to Indian members not to make statements that generate ridicule.