HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

Don't reinforce the failures - the 1st law of military strategy...

Anyway, the PAF must be quite happy....
 
Beijingwalker said:
" Domestically made" planes controlled by US and Israel.
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So?

The Chinese Air Force also used to mainly relies on foreign engines for its fighter jets, and the JF-17 still uses imported engines.

I'm not sure about your point, but in today's world, that's how things work. Countries don’t need to manufacture everything from scratch when many technology is already available in the market.

It's similar to building a car—you may develop the core technology, but you don’t manufacture every component like tires or wipers. When it comes to aircraft engines, the U.S. and European nations are still widely regarded as the leaders, while others continue to follow.

Yes, the delays are unfortunate for the Indian Air Force. However, the Tejas Mk1A, equipped with an AESA radar and Astra 2 missiles with a range of over 160 km, will be more than capable as an interceptor against many fighter jets in South Asia.
 
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Raj-Hindustani said:
So?

The Chinese Air Force also used to mainly relies on foreign engines for its fighter jets, and the JF-17 still uses imported engines.
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Used to, but not now, and China doesn't have JF-17 production line, they are being produced in Pakistan.
 
Guru Dutt said:
inka banta hai bhai when your enemy mocks your pertikular weapon..fact is they are most petrified by it ;) :P
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I never take the criticism of Tejas by Pakistani members seriously.

They are happily inducting the similarly capable JF-17 Block 3 into their own air force, yet they criticize Tejas.

I would acknowledge their argument if Tejas Mk1a were a generation behind the JF-17, but there is a difference between relying on an external OEM and developing an indigenous fighter.

The fact is, neither Chinese nor Pakistani all aircrafts will be upgraded to fifth-generation fighters anytime soon, and many fourth-generation aircraft will continue serving their air forces for the next two to three decades.

HAL Tejas Mk1a is perfectly suited for its interceptor role within this timeframe. While China possesses a majority of highly capable aircraft, it is essential we should have more advanced jets to maintain balance. So MRCA and Hal Tejas mk2 is very important
Beijingwalker said:
Used to, but not now, and China doesn't have JF-17 production line, they are being produced in Pakistan.
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And how long?
 
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Raj-Hindustani said:
So?

The Chinese Air Force also used to mainly relies on foreign engines for its fighter jets, and the JF-17 still uses imported engines.

I'm not sure about your point, but in today's world, that's how things work. Countries don’t need to manufacture everything from scratch when many technology is already available in the market.

It's similar to building a car—you may develop the core technology, but you don’t manufacture every component like tires or wipers. When it comes to aircraft engines, the U.S. and European nations are still widely regarded as the leaders, while others continue to follow.

Yes, the delays are unfortunate for the Indian Air Force. However, the Tejas Mk1A, equipped with an AESA radar and Astra 2 missiles with a range of over 160 km, will be more than capable as an interceptor against many fighter jets in South Asia.
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A fighter jet and critical defense products aren't cars you can buy parts for off the shelf. For Sovereign reasons the ideal is to produce these things inhouse, as in the case of embargoes, the whole thing doesn't collapse, and supply chains in times of war don't cripple you.

The WS-13 on the JF-17 is very much available for China. China is not reliant of outside help to manufacture defense equipment.
 
hyperman said:
A fighter jet and critical defense products aren't cars you can buy parts for off the shelf. For Sovereign reasons the ideal is to produce these things inhouse, as in the case of embargoes, the whole thing doesn't collapse, and supply chains in times of war don't cripple you.

The WS-13 on the JF-17 is very much available for China. China is not reliant of outside help to manufacture defense equipment.
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Agreed, I just given a simple example.

But Isn't Pakistan completely rely on china for the same?

Regarding india -
At least India is making an effort—they have even attempted to develop their own engines. While they haven’t been entirely successful yet, I can only laugh at those who mock India for its engine failure

Someone once told me: People fail only when they try; those who never try never fail. Now, it's up to people to decide which category is better.

I believe not today but tomorrow, india will surely able to manufacture aircrafts engine inhouse - they should continue progress on it

Read the news articles - why paf choosen Russian engines over Chinese .. please
 
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Raj-Hindustani said:
I never take the criticism of Tejas by Pakistani members seriously.

They are happily inducting the similarly capable JF-17 Block 3 into their own air force, yet they criticize Tejas.

I would acknowledge their argument if Tejas Mk1a were a generation behind the JF-17, but there is a difference between relying on an external OEM and developing an indigenous fighter.

The fact is, neither Chinese nor Pakistani all aircrafts will be upgraded to fifth-generation fighters anytime soon, and many fourth-generation aircraft will continue serving their air forces for the next two to three decades.

HAL Tejas Mk1a is perfectly suited for its interceptor role within this timeframe. While China possesses a majority of highly capable aircraft, it is essential we should have more advanced jets to maintain balance. So MRCA and Hal Tejas mk2 is very important

And how long?
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well since they are forced to use a half backed cookie since no one is ready to sell them there stuff or they cant afford anything else they find solace in mocking Indin effort ..... challta hai bhai ye bhee karre to kya karre

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So from the article,

12 engines will be delivered in 2026
Does anyone know how many engines will be delivered in 2025?
 
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