Hangor Class Submarine | Updates & Discussion

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You can clearly see the sea is rough in the second pic.

 

[rafale]

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what is that stuck in the vent? Looks like a plastic water bottle.....

 

[SABRE]

YES! Finally feels like we’ve been waiting 50 years long!

I know we signed in 2015 to order 8 submarines, 3-4 another submarines are coming soon next few months.

Almost two decades. I think the decision to buy new subs was made in 2007-2008, when the last Agosta-90B was commissioned. PN was looking into U-214, but the deal couldn't materialise. @Quwa /Bilal can probably give us a better timeline.

 

[Ak01]

what is that stuck in the vent? Looks like a plastic water bottle.....

yes it is

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

couldn't make it little bigger with adding 2x2 Vertical tubes for CM? I mean ability to fire 4 land attack cruise missiles will greatly enhance its capability.

My gut feelings is Pakistan will join the Turkish MILDEN indigenous submarine project. Turkey has indigenously manufactured the "mid-section" of the sub, where they can house the indigenous vertical launchers, with indigenous submarine-class highly specialized metals. Moreover, they're working on mini nuclear reactors for their next gen subs...

 

[SABRE]

what is that stuck in the vent? Looks like a plastic water bottle.....

Trash indeed. I visited the naval docks a few times between 2009 and 2013. I saw a lot of trash floating near the ships and subs. Juice boxes, slanty wrappers, etc., that beachgoers threw away on Clifton Beach found their way there.

 

[studsmart]

Actually replacing AIP might not be the way to go at all, a miniature nuclear reactor is something we won't get off the shelf, it's something we will have to develop by ourselves, while we have decent base to start of from it will still cost us upwards of tens of billions of dollars, money we realistically won't have.

Here's where AIP is the better option, modern Li on fuel cell AIP can allow submarines to be submerged for 70+ days, this isn't too Dismilar to many nuclear subs since they are limited by the food supplies on board, so if we get 6 subs and each one has a 2-3 month deployment cycle and a 4 month overhaul period then it means 2 can remain out at sea at all times, you are also avoiding the massive maintenance requirements and cost that come with nuclear submarines

And even better Italians are willing to sell us fuel cell AIP for our submarine programs.

You have a point. However, AIP can extend the slow underwater movement to 21 days, not 70+ days, and remember it is slow to loiter in the vicinity, not to sprint to the destination. Having AIP subs is a blessing for creating a complicated offensive posture for the adversary, but it is no replacement for SSN or SSBN yet. Pakistan should invest in miniaturizing the nuclear reactor, even though it takes 10 years to have a product. The way technology is today, there is no alternative to it for foreseeable future.

 

[studsmart]

My gut feelings is Pakistan will join the Turkish MILDEN indigenous submarine project. Turkey has indigenously manufactured the "mid-section" of the sub, where they can house the indigenous vertical launchers, with indigenous submarine-class highly specialized metals. Moreover, they're working on mini nuclear reactors for their next gen subs...

i think so too, but both of them [jointly] should take the route of Brazil

 

[White Privilege]

I hope it comes with the Chinese YJ-18 supersonic missiles as speculated, best way to ambush and annihilate a naval surface force and still survive as a sub....

 

[Watandar]

With these Hangors, India will not be able to blockade Karachi port like it did in 1971.

 

[Goenitz]

With these Hangors, India will not be able to blockade Karachi port like it did in 1971.

it didn't. Karachi was attacked by fast speed boats then the enemy returned. Though, even if they had blocked it after the surprise attack, I am afraid we couldn't have done anything immediately.

 

[RocketLaw]

More awesome pictures!







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[Ak01]

Some further insight from the man himself