Hezbollah-Israel Conflict 2024 - Lebanon & Occupied Palestine Territories
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Both Hamas and Hezbollah created underground infrastructure for storage of weapons and movements.
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They don't have conventional military bases and they will not expose their munitions to IDF. This is all common sense.
It is another thing that IDF has access to sophisticated technology and informants on the ground to figure out what is where.
Inside the tunnels of Gaza
A visual explainer of Hamas' network of tunnels beneath Gaza
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Hamas Has Reinvented Underground Warfare
The group’s Gaza tunnels will inspire others.
Hezbollah Touts Rocket Cave Network Capable Of Underground Launches
Hezbollah forces being able to fire multiple rocket launch systems from inside tunnels could complicate Israeli targeting plans — if the video wasn't shot in Iran. The Lebanon-based militants putting multiple rocket launch systems in tunnels seriously complicates Israeli targeting plans.
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They don't have conventional military bases and they will not expose their munitions to IDF. This is all common sense.
It is another thing that IDF has access to sophisticated technology and informants on the ground to figure out what is where.
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For Israel, it's doesn't matter you are civilian or military personal, It's either you are Jew or Jewish Pawn or enemy and all enemy are their target. I don't know why people debate these things, and fools enough to consider Israel an angel.
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Both Hamas and Hezbollah created underground infrastructure for storage of weapons and movements.
Inside the tunnels of Gaza
A visual explainer of Hamas' network of tunnels beneath Gaza
Hamas Has Reinvented Underground Warfare
The group’s Gaza tunnels will inspire others.
Hezbollah Touts Rocket Cave Network Capable Of Underground Launches
Hezbollah forces being able to fire multiple rocket launch systems from inside tunnels could complicate Israeli targeting plans — if the video wasn't shot in Iran. The Lebanon-based militants putting multiple rocket launch systems in tunnels seriously complicates Israeli targeting plans.
They don't have conventional military bases and they will not expose their munitions to IDF. This is all common sense.
It is another thing that IDF has access to sophisticated technology and informants on the ground to figure out what is where.
Why Hez leadership is roaming on the streets and living in building then? Why they can't be in these tunnels and secure area in war times?
Mate, they are human and have their offices and residences. Where all are supposed to go? Hassan Nasrallah was killed in his underground compound so no place is safe.
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Yes we are human and our leaders and general should go to office and residence in time of war so that our enemy should target us easily and Yes Hassan Nasrullah was killed in An unsecured underground compound and thought Israel is angel and didn't attack him because his compound is under a residential building. Yet Hez has many Cave Network, Tunnels, and secure areas. Foolishness at it's peak. Never consider your enemy an angel specially when it's Israel.
Apologies dear for being little emotional but It felt too much when the reason is our foolishness.
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When will the people of Iran and Lebanon realize that Israel is the devil and with whom negotiations are impossible?
Why do they always try to act like gentlemen against the devil?
How much blood has been spilled because of it?
Why do they always try to act like gentlemen against the devil?
How much blood has been spilled because of it?
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Exactly
This is not 2000. They should have known
Israel was watching and preparing and waiting for the right moment. All the marches in Beruit are just pageantry. For the Israelis, this is a deadly serious business.The Mujahideen forces have to adopt the same mindset. It is a matter of survival. They must believe that Israel is watching all the time.
Ordinarily, Israel would know that the best security comes from having no enemies on its borders. However, since theirs is an
expansionist ideology, they will always be at war with those whose lands they seek to steal.
Israel was watching and preparing and waiting for the right moment. All the marches in Beruit are just pageantry. For the Israelis, this is a deadly serious business.The Mujahideen forces have to adopt the same mindset. It is a matter of survival. They must believe that Israel is watching all the time.
Ordinarily, Israel would know that the best security comes from having no enemies on its borders. However, since theirs is an
expansionist ideology, they will always be at war with those whose lands they seek to steal.
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Iran will win this. Everyone knows……patience.
Mate, a war-fighting organization is not supposed to disappear from the battlefield or is it? Hezbollah might be trying its level best to conceal its activities but IDF has infiltrated its networks. It might be that Hassan Nasrallah's underground complex was discovered before he was killed.
The thread is full of narratives but is there an attempt to understand infrastructure and tactics of each side? What are we learning from this war? Nothing as usual because the focus is entirely on narratives.
Narratives have their place for valid reasons but there is also a need to study the war-fighting part objectively. To understand what each side is doing and who miscalculated and what are those mistakes. Narratives do not provide these lessons, camera feeds do.
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Dear I am not talking about fighting force but their top brass. I do understand war fighting part but i have an opinion he or any top brass should be in unsecured location in time of war and Hez and Iran & Co. are not good in this. Anyway it's too much on same thing and probably we both know each other point of view so no need to prolong this debate now and better move-on.
Taking a macro view of things.
Iran’s proxies are the only thing stopping Israel from expanding with total impunity. The IDF would keep on pushing into Gaza and West Bank until they swallow all the land and force all the Palestinians out to Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt or to the sea. If you guys don’t see this then you are smoking some good sh!t.
The Sunni Arab bloc in general is in bed with the Zionists and behind the scene would love to see the end of Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and eventually Iran, in its current form. This will be a dream scenario where oil can flow freely and Israel security guaranteed.
This will be a hard pill to swallow but Iran would be well advised to retreat and in the long term develop its nukes.
Iran’s proxies are the only thing stopping Israel from expanding with total impunity. The IDF would keep on pushing into Gaza and West Bank until they swallow all the land and force all the Palestinians out to Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt or to the sea. If you guys don’t see this then you are smoking some good sh!t.
The Sunni Arab bloc in general is in bed with the Zionists and behind the scene would love to see the end of Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and eventually Iran, in its current form. This will be a dream scenario where oil can flow freely and Israel security guaranteed.
This will be a hard pill to swallow but Iran would be well advised to retreat and in the long term develop its nukes.
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