I find the IAF Chief’s claim about Operation Sindoor hard to accept: Pravin Sawhney

[LC150]

No, you dont realise by now? India never requires evidence for it's claims. Only Pakistan is required to do that

I know..

they think because they say so people will believe...

what they dont realise is they have the reputation as a dishonest nation... they went around the world trying to convince Pakistan was behind the attacks and only Afgandooistan and Israel believed them..

 

[LC150]

I literally have that pdf in my mobile..
He does not say that.
Anyways that book was literally written in 1985 during height of cold war

now you are either lying or you dont know how to read...

“The Pakistan Air Force trained its personnel to very high standards. Pilots were intensively schooled in aerobatics, tactics, gunnery, and air combat. Many Pakistan Air Force pilots gained experience on exchange duty with the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and other air forces. The two-year pilot-training program began at the air academy at Risalpur, where students attended a classroom course, then began basic flying training in T-6 Texan trainers. Trainees flew 185 hours in the T-6 and then were assigned to Mauripur Air Base to fly T-33s in advanced training.”


page # 27




and it was written in the Cold War period?.. so what?.. listen indian you need to make intelligent argument otherwise no body on the planet will think indians have a brain.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You seem worth having a discussion with.

Don't you think having an analyst like Pravin here would actually make Indians more self aware on their limitations?

Because Pakistanis actually find him dangerous as he doesn't underestimate us. We usually perform well when our enemies underestimate us.

he is not!

he is the same delulu dweller, who likes to call, enormous display of wealth in country where hunger levels are not even matched by Sub Sahran Africa, a democracy and eco. development!

 

[TAC]

This is the difference, if heaven forbid Pakistan had got handed the epic humiliation and defeat, losing so many of its top jets without even apparently getting a shot off, if it’s leaders were being evasive, contradictory and in some cases making up comical counter claims to hide their ineptitude and failure, I bet you would find every single Pakistani member on this forum and everywhere, climbing over each other for the blood of their incompetent political and military leadership.
On the contrary, despite understanding the reality very well u have Indians, not only on Indian forums / every manner of social media but also on Pakistani forums defending their pathetic leaders and like them proclaiming a hollow and shameless ‘victory’. Shameless lying people, with shameless lying leaders, from a shameless nation, is all.

 

[Yasser76]

This is the difference, if heaven forbid Pakistan had got handed the epic humiliation and defeat, losing so many of its top jets without even apparently getting a shot off, if it’s leaders were being evasive, contradictory and in some cases making up comical counter claims to hide their ineptitude and failure, I bet you would find every single Pakistani member on this forum and everywhere, climbing over each other for the blood of their incompetent political and military leadership.
On the contrary, despite understanding the reality very well u have Indians, not only on Indian forums / every manner of social media but also on Pakistani forums defending their pathetic leaders and like them proclaiming a hollow and shameless ‘victory’. Shameless lying people, with shameless lying leaders, from a shameless nation, is all.

So true. We would have lynched our military leaders had we had the result India did.

 

[LC150]

and for the Duffer airforce

“The Indian Air Force’s training program was considerably expanded to train enough personnel to fly the planned forty-five-squadron air force. Student pilots were initially trained in the Hindustan Aircraft-built HT-2 light trainer at the Indian Air Flying College. Pilot trainees then went on to fly eighty-five hours in the T-6 Texan/Harvard trainer. Advanced training included seventy-five hours of flying de Havilland Vampire two-seat and single-seat jet aircraft.”

Excerpt From
Air Warfare in the Missile Age
Lon O. Nordeen
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[arsalan345]

We should be ready. 24 october to 4 november. anything can happen. I think india will again target pakistan while staying away from paf reach which is 500km away. We will see massive drone attacks targeting paf bases and similar attacks from brahmos. India is watching ukraine russia war closely and learning new tactics. India and afghanistan has secret agreement. Afghans did things purposefully with the bodies of our soldiers. They want full scale war and talibans are already prepared for all of this.

I think from 24 october to 4 november, we will see two front. If we attack afghanistan again, this will give opportunity to india. This is their script. I don't know what's our script. If they attack karachi this time then all the redlines will be crossed and i hope pakistan will not bend it's knees before trump. We shouldn't sacrifice our honor. We must not listen to United States this time. We should not worry about targeting important assets of enemy. We should hit enemy very hard this time and if our glide bombs aren't working then find solution and bomb the crap out of india.

I am expecting ground invasion of indian armed forces this time. we should worry. It's not like walk in the park. They will come with different strategy.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

We should be ready. 24 october to 4 november. anything can happen. I think india will again target pakistan while staying away from paf reach which is 500km away. We will see massive drone attacks targeting paf bases and similar attacks from brahmos. India is watching ukraine russia war closely and learning new tactics. India and afghanistan has secret agreement. Afghans did things purposefully with the bodies of our soldiers. They want full scale war and talibans are already prepared for all of this.

I think from 24 october to 4 november, we will see two front. If we attack afghanistan again, this will give opportunity to india. This is their script. I don't know what's our script. If they attack karachi this time then all the redlines will be crossed and i hope pakistan will not bend it's knees before trump. We shouldn't sacrifice our honor. We must not listen to United States this time. We should not worry about targeting important assets of enemy. We should hit enemy very hard this time and if our glide bombs aren't working then find solution and bomb the crap out of india.

I am expecting ground invasion of indian armed forces this time. we should worry. It's not like walk in the park. They will come with different strategy.

it does not work that way!

talk and fight, both go simultaneously!

and yes, we will use nu**s, if no talks are initiated from bigger powers!

 

[Vkdindian1]

No, you dont realise by now? India never requires evidence for it's claims. Only Pakistan is required to do that

You got it all wrong buddy.

Posters like you have different standards and requirements of proof.

When India attacks a hangar you demand picture of the damage caused inside, to accept any damage to any asset.
When you attack, that itself is a proof of success and no proof needs to be provided. That’s how attack on Indian bases were all successful and a resounding success.
When it is Indian aircraft, you demand why can’t India line up all of them and show the world but there is no such display regarding your own AWACS and F-16s likely to be damaged in those hangars.

Basically this proof seeking and demanding depends on what narrative one seeks.
So, don’t try to ride on the high horse of truth seeking pious person.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@arsalan345

No, there will be no two-front war. There will be some low-level insurgency on the Western front but that is something you guys are already used to it.

Regards

 

[Dark-Lord]

The Pakistan Air Force trained its personnel to very high standards. Pilots were intensively schooled in aerobatics, tactics, gunnery, and air combat. Many Pakistan Air Force pilots gained experience on exchange duty with the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and other air forces. The two-year pilot-training program began at the air academy at Risalpur, where students attended a classroom course, then began basic flying training in T-6 Texan trainers. Trainees flew 185 hours in the T-6 and then were assigned to Mauripur Air Base to fly T-33s in advanced training

Where does it say they were better trained than IAF or had more flying hours than IAF.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

@arsalan345

No, there will be no two-front war. There will be some low-level insurgency on the Western front but that is something you guys are already used to it.

Regards

You're not able to fight 0.5 front war with Bangladesh let alone You're able to fight 2 front war with Pakistan and China simultaneously lol

 

[LC150]

Where does it say they were better trained than IAF or had more flying hours than IAF.

You don’t know how add ? Or read commentary of the author?..

He cites the high training standards of PAF … he did not do for IAF

 

[LC150]

So true. We would have lynched our military leaders had we had the result India did.

Dont forget Lahore seaport …

 

[Yasser76]

Dont forget Lahore seaport …

Some Punjabi businessmen needs to open a fish restuarant with that name...