I find the IAF Chief’s claim about Operation Sindoor hard to accept: Pravin Sawhney

[Cipher212]

Pakistan claimed 6-0 and even if you don't believe it was 6-0, you can still find online 4 individual jet wreckages. So at worst this could be a case of over claiming if it turns out it's 4-0 and not 6-0

On the other hand, IAF chief himself said they shot down 5 'Hi Tech' aircraft across Pakistan. At this point it's pretty clear they didn't get a single one.

So is IAF chief really lying that brazenly or did PAF do something to their systems that genuinely makes them think they shot 5 jets down

 

[LC150]

Pakistan claimed 6-0 and even if you don't believe it was 6-0, you can still find online 4 individual jet wreckages. So at worst this could be a case of over claiming if it turns out it's 4-0 and not 6-0

On the other hand, IAF chief himself said they shot down 5 'Hi Tech' aircraft across Pakistan. At this point it's pretty clear they didn't get a single one.

So is IAF chief really lying that brazenly or did PAF do something to their systems that genuinely makes them think they shot 5 jets down

The loss of F16 cannot be hidden…

Pretty stupid of the Indian Sikh airchief to make such a claim …that to of a plane that is heavily monitored by the Americans

 

[Cipher212]

The loss of F16 cannot be hidden…

Pretty stupid of the Indian Sikh airchief to make such a claim …that to of a plane that is heavily monitored by the Americans

F-16 especially because I'm sure the Americans are monitoring our inventory even in 2025, but other jets as well.

If a PAF jet really was shot down, it would have definitely fallen in Punjab, AJK, maybe Sindh. Where will we hide the burning wreckage and its fallen pilot? I don't know how Indians sell themselves this story that we manage to flawlessly hide so many fallen aircraft and dead pilots.

 

[TAC]

You got it all wrong buddy.

Posters like you have different standards and requirements of proof.

When India attacks a hangar you demand picture of the damage caused inside, to accept any damage to any asset.
When you attack, that itself is a proof of success and no proof needs to be provided. That’s how attack on Indian bases were all successful and a resounding success.
When it is Indian aircraft, you demand why can’t India line up all of them and show the world but there is no such display regarding your own AWACS and F-16s likely to be damaged in those hangars.

Basically this proof seeking and demanding depends on what narrative one seeks.
So, don’t try to ride on the high horse of truth seeking pious person.

So you have ‘proof’ of a hanger, runway being hit with no proof of any asset being hit apart from what PAF themselves disclosed, we have proof of at least 4 of your top jets being shot down including the tip of your spear Ra-fail. Shot down all over the place over your own territory with your hapless Officials scrambling to stop your own media reporting them. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who has been in cope mode ever since. Same as your shameless officials, clutching at straws to salvage some semblance of dignity from what is epic humiliation. F-16’s ‘likely damaged’in you and your liar AC’s wet dreams only.

 

[Yasser76]

So you have ‘proof’ of a hanger, runway being hit with no proof of any asset being hit apart from what PAF themselves disclosed, we have proof of at least 4 of your top jets being shot down including the tip of your spear Ra-fail. Shot down all over the place over your own territory with your hapless Officials scrambling to stop your own media reporting them. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who has been in cope mode ever since. Same as your shameless officials, clutching at straws to salvage some semblance of dignity from what is epic humiliation. F-16’s ‘likely damaged’in you and your liar AC’s wet dreams only.

Uri Surgical Strike - No proof
2019 F-16 Shoot down - No proof
PAF assets - No proof

What these clowns do not realise it outside India, no one even bothers to take their claims seriously now. No one.

EVERYONE from Alan Warnes all the way up to Trump (and most people in between), are in awe of the 7 planes taken down. Trump cannot stop talking about it.

At some point these jokers tried to convince themselves ("but he did not state what country") in between his diatribe about India, they tried to cling on to that hope.

I never thought 1.4 Billion could suffer collective mental issues....

 

[TAC]

The loss of F16 cannot be hidden…

Pretty stupid of the Indian Sikh airchief to make such a claim …that to of a plane that is heavily monitored by the Americans

When you’re lying through your teeth to a domestic audience already softened up by Godi media and so desperate to believe your BS, doesn’t matter how stupid your claims are. Note how no reputable media outlet gave any attention or value to the disgrace to his uniform AC’s comical claims. He comes from a long line of liar Indian AC’s, must be part of the training.

 

[Yasser76]

When you’re lying through your teeth to a domestic audience already softened up by Godi media and so desperate to believe your BS, doesn’t matter how stupid your claims are. Note how no reputable media outlet gave any attention or value to the disgrace to his uniform AC’s comical claims. He comes from a long line of liar Indian AC’s, must be part of the training.

Yeah, funny how even the Russians not touting the fact the S-400 system whot down 12 F-16s and JF-17s.

Like when even your closest ally finds you lies cringe worthy....

 

[Master Chief]

We should be ready. 24 october to 4 november. anything can happen. I think india will again target pakistan while staying away from paf reach which is 500km away. We will see massive drone attacks targeting paf bases and similar attacks from brahmos. India is watching ukraine russia war closely and learning new tactics. India and afghanistan has secret agreement. Afghans did things purposefully with the bodies of our soldiers. They want full scale war and talibans are already prepared for all of this.

I think from 24 october to 4 november, we will see two front. If we attack afghanistan again, this will give opportunity to india. This is their script. I don't know what's our script. If they attack karachi this time then all the redlines will be crossed and i hope pakistan will not bend it's knees before trump. We shouldn't sacrifice our honor. We must not listen to United States this time. We should not worry about targeting important assets of enemy. We should hit enemy very hard this time and if our glide bombs aren't working then find solution and bomb the crap out of india.

I am expecting ground invasion of indian armed forces this time. we should worry. It's not like walk in the park. They will come with different strategy.

Gosh I read this post before seeing who wrote it and I thought while reading it, it is surely one of Arsalan bhai's posts! Then I scrolled up ..and behold!

 

[LC150]

F-16 especially because I'm sure the Americans are monitoring our inventory even in 2025, but other jets as well.

If a PAF jet really was shot down, it would have definitely fallen in Punjab, AJK, maybe Sindh. Where will we hide the burning wreckage and its fallen pilot? I don't know how Indians sell themselves this story that we manage to flawlessly hide so many fallen aircraft and dead pilots.

Hate of Pakistan makes them guilable to believe any thing negative of Pakistan as true even if there is no logic.

 

[LC150]

are in awe of the 7 planes taken down. Trump cannot stop talking about it.

And they cost $150M each … trump was up set of the cost

 

[LC150]

F-16 especially because I'm sure the Americans are monitoring our inventory even in 2025, but other jets as well.

If a PAF jet really was shot down, it would have definitely fallen in Punjab, AJK, maybe Sindh. Where will we hide the burning wreckage and its fallen pilot? I don't know how Indians sell themselves this story that we manage to flawlessly hide so many fallen aircraft and dead pilots.

Note they did even tell us where they fell down at least we told them where along with tail numbers..

So rude of them

 

[gamaji]

The loss of F16 cannot be hidden…

Pretty stupid of the Indian Sikh airchief to make such a claim …that to of a plane that is heavily monitored by the Americans

Indian air chief has proved to be a minnow who can be kicked and turned around by a sick-minded Hindutva PM at will. I see no self-respect, dignity, or professionalism in that dude.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

This is the difference, if heaven forbid Pakistan had got handed the epic humiliation and defeat, losing so many of its top jets without even apparently getting a shot off, if it’s leaders were being evasive, contradictory and in some cases making up comical counter claims to hide their ineptitude and failure, I bet you would find every single Pakistani member on this forum and everywhere, climbing over each other for the blood of their incompetent political and military leadership.
On the contrary, despite understanding the reality very well u have Indians, not only on Indian forums / every manner of social media but also on Pakistani forums defending their pathetic leaders and like them proclaiming a hollow and shameless ‘victory’. Shameless lying people, with shameless lying leaders, from a shameless nation, is all.

It's the best thig about them: they reinforce each other's blind beliefs....

 

[LC150]

Indian air chief has proved to be a minnow who can be kicked and turned around by a sick-minded Hindutva PM at will. I see no self-respect, dignity, or professionalism in that dude.

their armed forces have become politicalised..

 

[LC150]

All propaganda just like the captured female pilot who miraculously appeared at a ceremony so much for shooting down Rafales

live in denial *****

PS properganda?... how so ? wasn't India and US natural allies ?..

what happened ?

U turn?