If given a choice, IAF would happily Walk Away from Tejas - Angad Singh - Defence Writer

Shake hands with China and buy J-10C.
China will also retire older J-11 in next 5 years. India should acquire them. I have more Indian friends than Pakistani and I always like to given them good advice.
 
Which why these import bahadurs should have Tejas shoved down their throat. IN and ICG had no problem with indigenisation of their platform programs and has the order book full for our shipyards. Building SSBNs to Frigates, hovercrafts. While IAF babus are busy looking for phoren. No support to local industries while allowing subpar imports. IA too, although much less than IN, have better indigenisation than IAF.

The IAF have clearly said they are ok with "local maal".. the problem is that India cannot make and deliver the "local maal" !!!!!
 
Lack of Confidence: When asked directly if he was confident about AMCA, he bluntly responded "Nope", stating that he has seen nothing to demonstrate that lessons have been learned or implemented from the delays and issues surrounding the LCA (Tejas) program 00-56.


And he's right! To be honest, I consider him one of the foremost experts on the Indian Air Force and the defense industry, who—understandably—rarely speaks out about the mistakes, shortcomings, and weaknesses of the Indian system, and when he does, he’s often most diplomatic.

He is an incredibly astute analyst, and I have considered him a good friend for years—someone whose opinion I hold in incredibly high regard!

In 2018, we actually met in person for the first time.

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The biggest mistake India is making right now, is walking away from Russia. They are not ready to walk away from Russia yet, but they are doing it and that is another strategic mistake for them.

If the Indians get on board with both the Su-75 and Su57E platform with local Indian avionics suite and systems, that would fix their 470 unit problem that Yasser has highlighted. They are capable airframes when coupled local India avionics integrated with an Indian "datalink" would make capable platforms(of course the Russians have to agree to decouple the avionics from the airframe, but in todays world that is not a problem I reckon). Also upgrade the Su30MKI will a similar avionics suite using the same India "datalink". India will successfully build an entire avionics ecosystem that is totally Indian, that it can feed into the "AMCA" airframe and it can integrate that datalink with its NETRA platform for a coordinated setup.

Use the Russian platforms to develop an integrated Indian avionics platform and Datalink ecosystem that is fully integrated to work.


Indians complain Russian avionics are no good, so they don't want to get the Su-75/57E for that reason, but why not develop an Indian avionics setup? i.e. decouple the airframe from the avionics, this is something India can do with her experience in the Jaguar Darin upgrade, Tejas etc. India has enough hardware/software coolies to to be ablet to do that now.

In parallel progress their tinker projects of Tejas, AMCA etc.

There is a pathway for India to fix their fleet issues, but what India lacks is strategic planning capabilities (thankfully!). The lack of coherent common sense with an actual game plan is shocking(thankfully!) !
 
Yup, right now with two 6th Gen planes flying, can India even realistically match that level of tech in next 20 years? No. By then God only knows what China will have developed.

IAF missed a big trick here. They could have got the F-16 production line cheap off Lockheed who were willing to set up all global F-16 production in India and they could have got Rafale line 20 years ago.
If they had done that HAL would now be churning out 1 Sqd of Rafales and 1 Sqd of F-16Vs every year, IAF would be a very modern air force with compatibility with SE Asian and Gulf Air Forces. Back in the 70s and 80s they had two lines going for Jaguar and MIG-21 and churning them out like hot cakes, PAF at one point (pre F-16) was stuck with F-6s and Mirgae IIIs. How times have changed.

Not only now have the MIG-21s been retired and not replaced, but SU-30 is suffering from servicability issues and soon block obsolesence. Rafale order alone will simply not cut it. I see IAF going down to 22-23 Sqds in 5-10 years

I think we are headed into a very unfair world.

Technological progress always seems to create disproportionate outcomes, I am thinking here of the industrial Revolution where some countries are still catching up hundreds of years later

In the case of India it's all about how they have framed themselves relative to the world, plenty of empty and cheesy rhetoric but that sets the expectation.

The Indian CEO glut is a master stroke of coercion and influence, India gets the illusion of being around the top of the technology food chain, concentrated around individuals in any case have to answer to shareholders, and for this illusions they have no technology in their own country, most highlighted by not being able to create their own engine.



China is now on to 6th generation, that makes me wonder where they were looking with hundreds of 5th generation fighters being churned out.


And then we have bleeding edge technologies like quantum computing, networked military capabilities, space warfare...... If you have a Russian and then you have an American and then you have French systems are you not basically precluded from having networked capabilities to the best standard?

The angst that we hear now is basically not one issue but a type of epistemic collapse of Indian prowess and strategic thinking, they cannot understand what they have done why they have done so and then what to do next
 
It is not IAFs decision to make though .
IAF job is to follow orders of it's masters (PM/NSA/MOD) and they have decided to support Tejas.
So IAF has no role in this.
 
Tejas is must one to create a fighter jet ecosystem and recreate a eco system, we lost after marut and no amount of screwdriver job with SuMKI did not help us much, It might take time, we might be slow but we will get there, idegenious is go word for future,

it might not be world class on day 1 but we can keep improvinig, thats how china has learnt look at china, They belived in themselves and improved their products, we need to learn from there,

if the news is correct RR is already working Reliance to work on some smalls parts of engine to make their case stronger and GTRE is working on K2.0. Once we have engine test facilites and test bed established, we can speed up thing.
 
It is not IAFs decision to make though .
IAF job is to follow orders of it's masters (PM/NSA/MOD) and they have decided to support Tejas.
So IAF has no role in this.

Totally totally agree with you on this. The IAF should shut the f--- up and follow orders as they should!
 
Totally totally agree with you on this. The IAF should shut the f--- up and follow orders as they should!
Agree - unlike the other side of border which shuts everyone up, puts its own people in jail and carries out extra-judicial killings...

HAL is not doing a good job on Tejas that much is true but India will get there sooner or later. For all the naysayers, we've been there. People have doubted our nuclear capabilities, ability to indigenize etc. and we've always proven them WRONG. Par for the course...
 

Ex-IAF Officer Flags Indigenous Tejas Jet Fighter Project for Inordinate Delay​

August 22, 2026



NEW DELHI, Aug 22: India’s dependence on the indigenous products under the Centre’s “Atmanirbhar Bharat” programme, may be pushing the country’s defence-preparedness backward compared to ever-advancing China and the Chinese arsenals-fed Pakistan lurking on India’s borders.

In some of the hardest-hitting public comments made on the indigenous Tejas jet-fighter project, Air Marshal Nagesh Kapoor, who retired as the Indian Air Force’s Vice Chief less than two months ago, has said the made-in-India fighter Tejas Mk-2 may not be operationally relevant in a frontline role when it starts entering service in significant numbers in the mid-2030s.

Asked if it makes sense for India to have a fourth generation aircraft in 2035 when China has moved onto 6th generation platforms and Pakistan is considering 5th generation [jets], the Air Marshal was categorical – ”No, operationally, definitely No.”

Fifth-generation fighters such as the US F-22 or the Chinese J-20 combine stealth, which makes them difficult to track on radar with sensor fusion, and the internal carriage of weapons. Sixth-generation fighters, such as China’s J-36 and J-50 build on that stealth foundation by adding AI-driven autonomy with drone wingmen, and a “system of systems” approach where the jet acts as a networked node rather than a standalone platform.

India presently has neither Fifth nor Sixth generation platforms. Some estimates say China is on its way to deploying 500 fifth-generation J-20 fighters by 2030.

At the same time, the Air Marshal said fourth generation fighters of the class of the Tejas Mk-2 could still play a non-cutting-edge role. ”You can have a certain number of those 5th generation & 6th generation fighters, but given the size of the country, you won’t be able to deploy them everywhere. So those gaps which continue to remain to be filled will have to be filled by this class of aircraft.”

Significantly, the Air Marshal slammed the attitude of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) which builds the Tejas fighters. He said the present lack of availability of the Tejas Mk1A variant of the fighter in significant numbers was a ”huge” concern. ”Why must it be that a machine that was promised to us so many years back with a certain set of capabilities continues to be denied to us on one pretext or the other?” ”Why must we be hamstrung because someone somewhere has not been able to keep their promises?”

While strongly backing the need for made in India fighters, the Air Marshal Kapoor added, ”Indigenous is the way to go without a doubt but how long do we keep waiting?”

The Tejas prototype first flew in 2001, and the Indian Air Force went on to order 40 Tejas Mk.1 jets. In 2021, it ordered 83 of the more advanced Tejas Mk-1A variant in a roughly Rs 46,000-crore deal. At the moment, not a single Tejas Mk-1A has been delivered to the IAF, with engine deliveries of the US-built General Electric F404-IN20 having failed to keep up with the pace of manufacture. In the interim period, HAL reportedly continues to address integration problems involving its radar, avionics and weapons systems.

A secondary order for 97 more Tejas Mk-1A jets was announced on 25 September 2025, in a Rs 62,370-crore deal. HAL, meanwhile, has been developing a genuinely more advanced successor, the Tejas Mk-2, and originally promised to roll out its prototype in 2022 – a promise it has failed to deliver on, with the timeline having slipped repeatedly since through 2023, 2024, 2025 and into 2026. As of HAL’s most recent update, at the Farnborough Airshow in July 2026, the Mk-2’s first flight is now expected sometime between March and July 2027.

”Their (HAL’s) sense of urgency is not equal to the sense of urgency of the Indian Air Force,” said Air Marshal Kapoor. ”The kind of urgency that they show for the job that they do is way far lesser than what we would like to have in the Indian Air Force.”

It’s not just the Tejas programme that the IAF is concerned about. India’s first home-grown stealth fighter, the AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft), which could take a decade in development and trials, may also miss initial technology benchmarks in its first variants when they are available for induction.

India, the Air Marshal feels, must partner with a European consortium working on state-of-the-art sixth generation platforms. ”There are other things that are happening – why not FCAS? Why not GCAP? Why not join in on any one of those programmes?” ”You are probably going with a consortium which has got a good record of delivery, of development. Why go through this Gen 4, Gen 4.5 steps when you know the next best thing is already being thought of and why not just join up there?”

FCAS, or the Future Combat Air System, is a joint project between France, Germany, and Spain to develop a next-generation fighter jet along with supporting drones and a “combat cloud” network, targeted for around 2040. GCAP, the Global Combat Air Programme, is a joint project between the United Kingdom, Italy, and Japan. This aims for a next-generation fighter around 2035.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited was excluded from India’s AMCA stealth programme in early February 2026 after failing to qualify in an Expression of Interest (EoI) – an early screening step, before any formal contract, where the government checks which companies are financially and industrially capable of taking on a project – that had been opened to private industry in mid-2025. HAL’s order backlog was nearly eight times its turnover, far over the allowed limit. Three private-led groups passed instead and received the formal Request for Proposal: Tata Advanced Systems Limited solo, an L&T-BEL consortium, and a Bharat Forge-BEML consortium.

 

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