Imran Khan Thinks it is Pakistan that is Making Afghanistan its Enemy and not Vice Versa

[alphapak]

Ghulam ibne Ghulam nahi manain gay.

He is a typical Goon League sat in Avenfield, just because all politcal parties
combined cannot beat IK by the ballot he wants the Army to beat them
with the bullet.

They Mafia tried that in 1970's and that led to the break up of Pakistan.

 

[SteppeWolff]

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@Distant_Observer

 

[SteppeWolff]

He is a typical Goon League sat in Avenfield, just because all politcal parties
combined cannot beat IK by the ballot he wants the Army to beat them
with the bullet.

They Mafia tried that in 1970's and that led to the break up of Pakistan.

Inkay roohani baap ( Nawaz Sharif ) ka beta recently got convicted as a tax dodger in UK. Haramzadgi inkay khoon may hay. Making a pig wear lipstick and panties doesn't make it a victoria secret model lmao.

 

[Distant_Observer]

@Distant_Observer

So? Where was he living when 9/11 happened and all the other attacks?

Fauj did have Taliban sympathizers, which part of KPK do you think they were from? How many of our soliders died due to them leaking intel?

Next you will saying FATA people who were willing human shields for Taliban during drone strikes were in the right Wasn't Imran protesting for them? Giving Taliban cover while they were blowing up marriot? Like what Mahrang and her ilk are doing right now? In the west we call them terrorist sympathizers and have zero tolerance towards them.

This culture of appeasing the enemy so they leave you alone is not Pakistan nuclear state behavior. It's small time baloch or KPK village mentality. That's why they hate Punjabis, we don't tolerate their shit.

 

[SteppeWolff]

So? Where was he living when 9/11 happened and all the other attacks?

Fauj did have Taliban sympathizers, which part of KPK do you think they were from? How many of our soliders died due to them leaking intel?

Sounds like Phauji blunder to me. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[alphapak]

Where was he living when 9/11 happened and all the other attacks?

Before 9/11 they were called Mujahideen by the Mafia, it was after Mushy got
a phone call from USA they were converted to terrorists.

Did you know Osama was bought to Pakistan on CIA during Soviet Invasion
along with other Arabs. Mota Nawaja also received payments from Osama
as well. You need to ask your abbu what he done with that money?

Osama bin Laden financed Nawaz Sharif, says former Pakistani diplomat - The Tribune

Islamabad, January 31 Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had supported and funded ex-PM Nawaz Sharif, a former Pakistani diplomat who also served as a minister in the PML-N supremo’s cabinet has alleged. “Yes, he (Osama) supported Mian Nawaz Sharif at...

www.tribuneindia.com

 

[r3alist]

Before 9/11 they were called Mujahideen by the Mafia, it was after Mushy got
a phone call from USA they were converted to terrorists.

Did you know Osama was bought to Pakistan on CIA during Soviet Invasion
along with other Arabs. Mota Nawaja also received payments from Osama
as well. You need to ask your abbu what he done with that money?

Osama bin Laden financed Nawaz Sharif, says former Pakistani diplomat - The Tribune

Islamabad, January 31 Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had supported and funded ex-PM Nawaz Sharif, a former Pakistani diplomat who also served as a minister in the PML-N supremo’s cabinet has alleged. “Yes, he (Osama) supported Mian Nawaz Sharif at...

www.tribuneindia.com

I cannot believe the mythos around obl is being argued amongst one another in pdf


It's a race to the bottom


The dead carcus of the obl saga is being squabbled over

Talk about Stockholm syndrome

 

[Distant_Observer]

Before 9/11 they were called Mujahideen by the Mafia, it was after Mushy got
a phone call from USA they were converted to terrorists.

Did you know Osama was bought to Pakistan on CIA during Soviet Invasion
along with other Arabs. Mota Nawaja also received payments from Osama
as well. You need to ask your abbu what he done with that money?

Osama bin Laden financed Nawaz Sharif, says former Pakistani diplomat - The Tribune

Islamabad, January 31 Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had supported and funded ex-PM Nawaz Sharif, a former Pakistani diplomat who also served as a minister in the PML-N supremo’s cabinet has alleged. “Yes, he (Osama) supported Mian Nawaz Sharif at...

www.tribuneindia.com

You shared a 2 sentence story from an Indian rag? You shared a picture from 1971?

Indian or Afghan origin detected. Opinion rejected.

COAS is right, Pakistan needs to be severe with its troublemakers. They barely have a functioning moral compass.

 

[Snake]

Dont worry about the Baloch and Pashtuns my brother. They have fought those same terrorists on their own for decades without any state support. If the state wants to civilise the areas, it should come with a hammer and destroy the sardari system, maliks of FATA and other systems of past.

"Backwards Culture" whatever that means will get weeded out on its own when the literacy rate rises and the opportunities increase for the locals to integrate in the overall society. Have such efforts been done?

The hammer and development don't go together. This is where the locals need to extend a hand and offer up the sardars, maliks. worrying gets you nowhere it's time for the people of kpk, Balochistan to have lives without violence.

"Backwards culture" in this case means nonsense like pashtunwali over Islamic ideas. Polio eradication was an effort to bring them forward and they killed the workers and kept polio.

 

[SteppeWolff]

So? Where was he living when 9/11 happened and all the other attacks?

Fauj did have Taliban sympathizers, which part of KPK do you think they were from? How many of our soliders died due to them leaking intel?

Next you will saying FATA people who were willing human shields for Taliban during drone strikes were in the right Wasn't Imran protesting for them? Giving Taliban cover while they were blowing up marriot? Like what Mahrang and her ilk are doing right now? In the west we call them terrorist sympathizers and have zero tolerance towards them.

This culture of appeasing the enemy so they leave you alone is not Pakistan nuclear state behavior. It's small time baloch or KPK village mentality. That's why they hate Punjabis, we don't tolerate their shit.

No one hates Punjabis. Get over yourself. The terrorists killing Punjabis want all ethnic groups to fight amongst themselves, that's their goal. Useful idiots like you fall directly into the trap. Stop fanning your ethno agenda sitting in UK.

 

[SteppeWolff]

The hammer and development don't go together. This is where the locals need to extend a hand and offer up the sardars, maliks. worrying gets you nowhere it's time for the people of kpk, Balochistan to have lives without violence.

People stuck in vicious cycles under Sardars and Maliks need to offer them to the state? Same state that itself has outsourced the governance to them? You fooling yourself or me? Agar Public nay hi sb krna hay so why do we need the state?

"Backwards culture" in this case means nonsense like pashtunwali over Islamic ideas.

State itself is unislamic to its core. Stop giving me the Islamic sermon.

 

[alphapak]

You shared a 2 sentence story from an Indian rag? You shared a picture from 1971?

Indian or Afghan origin detected. Opinion rejected.

COAS is right, Pakistan needs to be severe with its troublemakers. They barely have a functioning moral compass.

Did mota Nawaja deny taking money from OBL? What is wrong about pic of
1971? The mafia had no shame surrendering half the Country and if someone
mentions automatically makes you Indian or Afghan?

 

[r3alist]

The hammer and development don't go together. This is where the locals need to extend a hand and offer up the sardars, maliks. worrying gets you nowhere it's time for the people of kpk, Balochistan to have lives without violence.

"Backwards culture" in this case means nonsense like pashtunwali over Islamic ideas. Polio eradication was an effort to bring them forward and they killed the workers and kept polio.

The locals can only follow if the state shows plausible leadership, support and seriousness

It's not correct to ask them to rise up to represent state actions, plus by definition they are exploited

the sardars could be tempted to take the whole house with them and probably have foreign links as a hedge

As Pakistan is always focusing on something other than human development this issue persists

 

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[That_Guy]

Imran Khan mentions alot about narrative building, he said when Usa drone attacks our people, they kill militants but innocents aswell, this is then used against us by the militants the same way with allowing cia and blackwater operatives inside Pakistan, who will kidnap people on our land, providing supplies to Nato is another issue. The militants are using this against us, to win sympathy and to build a strong narrative. Today Usa has left and we are the ones who has to face the backlash. We are again going back to the Usa, to collaborate with them in order to remove Taliban. TTP and BLA as alleged are based on the borders of Afghanistan, they can attack us but we do not do covert operations to finish them off.

And he is right, to a good degree, but we cannot ignore the fact that after Pakistan launched Zarb e Azb and cleared out the tribal belt, terrorism fell by 99% for YEARS, only return during the middle to end of Bajwa's terms.

Hearts and minds are important to win, but you must show you have the strength and political will to back your victories.