Guynextdoor
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some recent pics from the Gujarat stretch
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Guynextdoor
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Anand Station under construction (Gujarat). A sleepy rural part of India , Anad came to prominence when it pioneered the white revolution and one of the most succesful cooperative movements in the world. Now it is becoming a major economic hub linked with a bullet train.
Guynextdoor
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The massive BKC station under construction in Mumbai. This is a VERY influential banking and financial services centre in India- all the rich dudes that want to hitch a ride on the Bullet train will pick up from here.
Guynextdoor
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This is BKC at night. You can see how affluent this place is- because most Indian and international banks have their HQ here.
Guynextdoor
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Bombay skyline, increasingly looking like those of other major cities like New York and Shanghai, will be transformed through these new transport and infra projects.
Guynextdoor
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one major stop in this project is 'Dholera' a high tech semi-conductor manufacturing city built from ground up. Tatas are buiding a USD 10 billion chip factory here and with bullet train it will increase overall connectivity
Guynextdoor
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In Sabarmati it is linked with an exceptional multi-modal transport hub
Raj-Hindustani
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Bullet trains is a future... We are still very far behind compared to many china and a others who has already developed the insfratrure.
Today supposed for travelling by train over 1000 km in india, takes approx 20-24 hours.
Need to start working on more projects as soon as possible.
A few decades ago, I was in Delhi when first modern metro project was started service, now it's very common now... Similar way - bullet trains connectity should be common way to travel after 10-20 years in india
Today supposed for travelling by train over 1000 km in india, takes approx 20-24 hours.
Need to start working on more projects as soon as possible.
A few decades ago, I was in Delhi when first modern metro project was started service, now it's very common now... Similar way - bullet trains connectity should be common way to travel after 10-20 years in india
lightoftruth
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Chinese HSR projects are loss making and are under huge debt, such projects needs economic viability, they are costly.
Only few should be built in India , between major economic hubs.
Across DMIC & between Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai, only logical areas.
Michael
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Uh. You won't see this situation in your lifetime.
If India can master some high-speed rail manufacturing technology and independently manufacture some high-speed rail facilities and equipment within 10-20 years, then that is entirely possible.
But for high-speed rail to become a common mode of transportation for ordinary Indians within 10-20 years, there is absolutely no possibility of that happening. ------ Your country's political system would absolutely not allow something like this to happen.
China's high-speed rail projects are indeed operating at a loss. That's a fact. Many state-owned public service systems in China are operating at a loss.
For example:
China Post's express delivery and mail services have never been profitable; they are operating at a huge loss. China Post relies on its banking business to offset these losses.
Many lines in China's urban public transportation systems have been operating at a loss for a long time. However, laws prohibit them from shutting down these consistently unprofitable lines.
Many public service systems in China that serve ordinary citizens are subject to government regulations that force them to operate at extremely low prices and prohibit price increases. Furthermore, the law does not allow them to shut down; they must continue operating indefinitely. (The companies operating these projects are all state-owned enterprises.)
As for the underlying logic behind this, I don't think you can understand it.
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I just checked the relevant data, and the profitability of China's high-speed rail has changed.
Financial reports of China National Railway Group in recent years:
2020: Net loss of 55.5 billion RMB
2021: Net loss of 50.7 billion RMB
2022: Net loss of 69.6 billion RMB
2023: Net profit of 3.3 billion RMB
2024: Net profit of 3.9 billion RMB
First three quarters of 2025: Net profit of 11.72 billion RMB
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Guynextdoor
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why should we 'develop it independently' when a friendly country is transferring it at no cost? We can spend money in R&D or build it on infra. If it is possible to spend more money on infra, it makes projects more viable in terms of cost.
Besides, once BEML stabilizes production of the trains in India, they will continue innovate new versions , customized for Indian conditions that will be fully Indian.
You want the project to be ego bragging. We want it to be viable.
Guynextdoor
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I think the real point is- when air corridoor is choked, then by shifting passengers from air to train, you can convert money that is usually spend just. burning off in aviation fuel into building infra and operating trains- jobs and GDP instead of smoke.
Guynextdoor
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you have to carefully select only those carridoors where air traffic choked and you can shift them to buying somehwat expensive train tickets.
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SoulSpokesman
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A bad project. Shouldn't have been done at all.
Regards
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onlinpunit
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1. Mumbai -pune-hyderabad
2. Mysore-Bangalore - chennai
3. Delhi- Mumbai
4. Delhi- lucknow-patna-Kolkata
5. Kolkata - chennai
6. Chennai- Vizag/amaravati
We need work on these lines asap.
