India is incomplete without Pakistan: Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajapayee

Do you understand the difference between civilizational artwork and a political map?
No, we don't. Neither do the Bangladeshis or Nepalis. Did you explain it to them ?

They seem mighty upset over the "civilizational artwork "
Could you answer their concerns as given in this report from the The Independent?

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1.5 billion do not all see this as "civilisational artwork".

Indeed, some elected leadership do not see this as "civilisational artwork", but rather a civilisational trajectory.

As already stated, discussions around “Akhand Bharat” or “Ghazwa-e-Hind” are largely driven by fringe narratives. Engaging with such claims is a waste of time.

99% of Indians do not have any interests in Pakistani parts, excluding the part of jammu and kashmir
 
As already stated, discussions around “Akhand Bharat” or “Ghazwa-e-Hind” are largely driven by fringe narratives. Engaging with such claims is a waste of time.
Once upon a time, discussions about Ram being born under the Ayodhya masjid were also driven by fringe narratives.

Hindustan follows the Israeli blueprint, whether deliberately or otherwise.
 
Once upon a time, discussions about Ram being born under the Ayodhya masjid were also driven by fringe narratives.

Hindustan follows the Israeli blueprint, whether deliberately or otherwise.
Sir, diverting the topic, please.

I can give many examples of incidents involving temples in Pakistan and Bangladesh, but that would be off topic and not relevant to this discussion.
 
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The only civilization and culture is the one that Bharat projects.
Every one else, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, don't count.




Extract :

" If a country like India that sees itself as an ancient and strong country and as a model of democracy puts Nepali territories in its map and hangs the map in parliament, it cannot be called fair,” Nepal’s former Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli was quoted as saying in The Kathmandu Post newspaper.

Oli asked the Nepalese Prime Minister Pushpa Kamal Dahal, who visited India last week, to “ask [the Indian government] to remove the mural” and “correct that mistake.”

“There is no point in visiting India if you can’t do that,” Oli told the Nepalese newspaper.

According to Indian media reports, Dahal did not raise the map in his meetings with his Indian counterpart, Narendra Modi, or other officials.

The mural depicts Nepal’s ancient sites such as Lumbini – the birthplace of Lord Buddha – and Kapilvastu as part of the “Greater India” map.

Last week, Pakistan also expressed ” grave” concerns over the idea of Akhand Bharat being increasingly peddled by India’s ruling dispensation.

At a weekly news briefing in Islamabad, Pakistani foreign ministry spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch said the assertion in the map was “a manifestation of an expansionist mindset that seeks to subjugate the ideology and culture not only of India’s neighbours but also its religious minorities”.
 
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It's incomplete even with Pakistan.

They need to add BD and UK too, then make UK the boss again. Now that's COMPLETE.
Don't feel left out, Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee mentioned Dhaka in his poem too,
"The dark shadow of lamentation is on Lahore, Karachi and Dhaka. "

हिंदू के नाते उनका दु:ख. Hindu ke naate unka Dukh
सुनते यदि तुम्हें लाज आती। Sunnte tumhe yadi laaj aati
तो सीमा के उस पार चलो. To Seema ke us paar chalo
सभ्यता जहाँ कुचली जाती॥. Sabhyata jahan kuchli jaati
इंसान जहाँ बेचा जाता, Insaan jahan becha jaata
ईमान ख़रीदा जाता है। Eeman khareeda jaata hai
इस्लाम सिसकियाँ भरता है, Islam Siskiyan bharta hai,
डालर मन में मुस्काता है॥. Dollar man mein muskata hai
भूखों को गोली नंगों को. Bhookhon ko goli nangon ko
हथियार पिन्हाए जाते हैं। Hathiyar pinhaye jaate hain
सूखे कंठों से जेहादी. Sukhe Kanthon se jehadi
नारे लगवाए जाते हैं॥. Nare lagvaye jaate hain
लाहौर, कराची, ढाका पर. Lahore Karachi Dhaka par
मातम की है काली छाया। Maatam ki hai kaali chaya
पख्तूनों पर, गिलगित पर है. Pakhtoono par Gilgit par hai
ग़मगीन गुलामी का साया॥. Ghamgeen gulabi ka Chaaya
बस इसीलिए तो कहता हूँ. Bas Is liye to kahta hun
आज़ादी अभी अधूरी है। Azaadi Abhi Adhoori hai
कैसे उल्लास मनाऊँ मैं? Kaise Ukhas Manau main?
थोड़े दिन की मजबूरी है॥. Thodi din ki majboori hai

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If you are ashamed to hear about the grief of the Hindus
Then come and go across the border where civilization is crushed,
Where humans are sold and honor is purchased
Where Islam sobs and the Dollar chuckles in mental glee
The starving get ammunition and the naked wear weapons,
Where from dry throats the jihadi slogans are forced
The dark shadow of lamentation is on Lahore. Karachi and Dhaka,
On the Pakhtuns and the Gilgitis there is the pink shadow of grief.
Which is why I say , Our Independence is Incomplete
How can I celebrate.., But this ( constraint) is temporary
 
It's incomplete even with Pakistan.

They need to add BD and UK too, then make UK the boss again. Now that's COMPLETE.
Some Indians I have spoken to genuinely have this delusion that Dubai also should have been ceded to India in 1947. It was a protectorate of Britain, governed from British occupied Delhi, using the Rupee as currency. Of course, the same argument India uses could also have been used by Pakistan to "claim" Dubai in this context, but Pakistanis don't make such wild assertions.

If these guys think Dubai should have ceded to India in 1947 purely because of the aforementioned administrative technicalities, why not myriad other British possessions, e.g. Burma?

Perhaps it's a moot point, since they have overrun the little pirate nation now anyway!
 
Off topic but I can't help uploading these videos.
Hopefully, the "incomplete will remain incomplete."
( Note: We still don't know the kid whose voice is there in the second video)

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Let's close the thread with these immortal songs.
It's a photo and multimedia thread,

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Since there are prophecies of columns of fire in the East, Pakistan should do this world a great favour and just launch an all out nuclear/biological/chemical preemptive strike against India thus eliminating this largest garbage dump of evil scourge of this galaxy and do this planet a great servicer, sure Pakistan might be destroyed in retaliation, and the population of this planet will be reduced by about 1.8 Billion or so. But chances are the Indian nukes are duds and the Russians/Europeans have sold them dud systems.

Eithery way, it is a sacrifice worth it all!

I mean, the world already has the recipe for Chicken Vindalu.
 

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