India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

He first said '7 jets' lol and a single Rafale without the weapons, advanced upgrades (F4.1/4.2, F5 - India has F3R standard Rafales btw) and support is indeed worth around $130m-$160m, which is I think called the flyaway cost (?), prices per unit vary tho... one of the most expensive jets out there
Rafale spares package was for $1.9 billion and weapons for $ 1 billion out of total 9.6 billion $
Excluding that price comes to be close to 190 million per bird, almost 25% higher than Trump's claims.
 
Giving any credit to the comical claims by your 🤡AC displays a level of desperation I can only sympathise with. I would suggest that rather than knowingly live in a make believe world created by your incompetent leadership to cover their asses, you hold them accountable for the same. Perhaps then you may avoid even bigger humiliations in future.
they wont even believe the m88 engine laying in that field what makes u think they will belive this
 
I am proposing the number to be fixed at 12 jets from IAF till end of August, with an option to make it 15 jets by September 7, 2025.

For Trump, he can take a growth rate of 10% per month on the number.

The only problem for IAF is that at this rate from Trump, they may be left with no jets, really scary situation
Amusing but whether the number of top of the line jets 🤡AF lost that day is undebatable 4 or 15 or something in between, the most amusing part is that India and more specifically 🤡AF got smashed, humiliated and cut down to size from their Supa Powa Bollywood bravado & are still struggling to come to terms with that reality.
 
This is reality, they don't like us and they didn't hold and won't hold back.
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Dear Pakistani Military,
Please don't holdback next time. Please don't give statements like India got lucky we could have shot down 11 jets but, we showed restraint. If you have lock on 50 jets and targets, do it, kill 'em. That's what kids too after a fight, "I could have beat him but for X reason he got lucky". Do them dirty.

Regards,
 
This is reality, they don't like us and they didn't hold and won't hold back.
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Dear Pakistani Military,
Please don't holdback next time. Please don't give statements like India got lucky we could have shot down 11 jets but, we showed restraint. If you have lock on 50 jets and targets, do it, kill 'em. That's what kids too after a fight, "I could have beat him but for X reason he got lucky". Do them dirty.

Regards,
i agree matter of fact hit em pre emptively next time!
 
This is reality, they don't like us and they didn't hold and won't hold back.
View attachment 143307

Dear Pakistani Military,
Please don't holdback next time. Please don't give statements like India got lucky we could have shot down 11 jets but, we showed restraint. If you have lock on 50 jets and targets, do it, kill 'em. That's what kids too after a fight, "I could have beat him but for X reason he got lucky". Do them dirty.

Regards,
Very true.

But you and I both know exactly the terminology that the civilians in charge will be using in full public view next time this happens. "Restraint", "maturity", "unprecedented", "unprovoked", "aggressor".
 
Rafale spares package was for $1.9 billion and weapons for $ 1 billion out of total 9.6 billion $
Excluding that price comes to be close to 190 million per bird, almost 25% higher than Trump's claims.

no wonder, you hate Pak. so much!

its in your mindset, never to accept defeat and demean others!

no saints on our side too, but, with your attitude, it gets harder not to think otherwise!
 
Shorter range **
My English is not as good as someone like you who is also French and working as an engineer at Dassault.
I admire your English skills Rakesh.
But again I will insist to correct you that meteor was not used because PAF electric jamming didn't let it happen. Plus meteor was well enough out ranged by PL-15E.
IAF Rafales didn't even get chance to fire their meteors. After the first PL-15E struck on of Rafales it was just chaos on IAF side.
Every IAF pilot to his mates was screaming "bhaag Arjun bhaag". No one even remembered they had to fire any meteors.
We, the french, are not specially skilled in foreign language.

Meteor has an official no escape range of at least 60km. Officially. Thant means in reality more. How exactly I don't know. 61? 65? 70? 80?
The max range is >300km. It is so impressiv that we had to change of fire range area in France.
The max range of a missile is nearly useless because then the missile is more a rocket than a missile because with nearly no kinematic energy so just able to take a non moving target. NEZ is more interesting.

What is the NEZ of PL-15 ?

The one of MICA is in the 15 to 20 km and AMRAAM C in the 20 to 25...
 
Very true.

But you and I both know exactly the terminology that the civilians in charge will be using in full public view next time this happens. "Restraint", "maturity", "unprecedented", "unprovoked", "aggressor".
when did military establishment started caring about civilian opinion
 
We, the french, are not specially skilled in foreign language.

Meteor has an official no escape range of at least 60km. Officially. Thant means in reality more. How exactly I don't know. 61? 65? 70? 80?
The max range is >300km. It is so impressiv that we had to change of fire range area in France.
The max range of a missile is nearly useless because then the missile is more a rocket than a missile because with nearly no kinematic energy so just able to take a non moving target. NEZ is more interesting.

What is the NEZ of PL-15 ?

The one of MICA is in the 15 to 20 km and AMRAAM C in the 20 to 25...
Meteor range is around 200, far less than PL-15's 280-300 kilometers range.
NE for meteor is stated as 60Km but no one knows.
PL-15's ni escape zone whatever may be but definitely more than 60 km. It is well document that it can shoot a Rafale at more than 200 kilometers.
On the other hand meteor didn't even got chance to get fired as it was effectively jammed by PAF... So was proved ineffective.
And Rakesh! You are not a French. Don't lie again and again.
 
I am proposing the number to be fixed at 12 jets from IAF till end of August, with an option to make it 15 jets by September 7, 2025.

For Trump, he can take a growth rate of 10% per month on the number.

The only problem for IAF is that at this rate from Trump, they may be left with no jets, really scary situation

Hurt is painful right? As new evidence comes to light you guys are no regretting the 5 losses you should have come clean with as Dassault and others discover the real mess
 
Hurt is painful right? As new evidence comes to light you guys are no regretting the 5 losses you should have come clean with as Dassault and others discover the real mess
I wish my emotions were that fragile to get hurt by some comments by a faceless person from opposite side of the boarder. I had more failed relationships than the number of jets claimed by PAF, but hunting for the next target as IAF hunted Pakistani radars and AF stations

But thanks bro for your concern
 
From day 1...the propaganda machines of india on different forums,websites,news articles,and even out of desperation youtube have been spewing shit about how they shotdown this and that and how pakistans j10c escaped to afghanistan bullshit...
the amount of indians that belived that a single brahmos or scalp had destroyed the kirana hills and radiation was spewing out were part of a very large crowd...they think thatt he actual core of the fissiele material is stored in big yellow barrels of radioactive goo that can spill out even after a slightest touch....who can forget those documents that were fake to a point that they seemed funny...these include
1)"resignation of army officers from pak army after op sindhoor strikes"-and the name of cheif isi is worng
2)"radiation leakage from sarghoda" the infamous chant of JINDABAD
3)"IK got molested in prison"-this was a genuine video made by STUDY IQ IAS(IQ BELOW THEN ROOM TEMP)
 

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