India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

[airhead]

NYTimes analysis concluded minimal damage by fateh missiles. The only damage we did was to take out 6 Indian aircraft which focal neglected to mention

 

[Thinking]

NYTimes analysis concluded minimal damage by fateh missiles. The only damage we did was to take out 6 Indian aircraft which focal neglected to mention

Times lied since India didn't allow satellites to take pictures...from space.

NYT did mention loss of aircrafts, just not the numbers.

 

[Windjammer]

NYTimes analysis concluded minimal damage by fateh missiles. The only damage we did was to take out 6 Indian aircraft which focal neglected to mention

Did Indians give access to NYT to visit their bases or other places that were targeted. Lol

 

[baqai]

What is the latest count? Only Rafale please, saar!

talking of count, why don't you ask your air chief to line up all the Rafael's and do an elephant walk for all of the world to see?

 

[Thinking]

Did Indians give access to NYT to visit their bases or other places that were targeted. Lol

Has Pakistan? Did you invite India or gave brand new pictures of your assets? Just your "words", right? NYT report is based on satellite pics. Welcome to future! Don't blame the messenger! Plenty of renowned military experts bashing India left or right. None of them visited India.

 

[Thinking]

talking of count, why don't you ask your air chief to line up all the Rafael's and do an elephant walk for all of the world to see?

Right after Pakistan does the same for all it's assets? India lied about destroying AWACS, no? Line them up for photo shoot and prove India wrong! Ah, the onus is one sided. For rest, trust me bro!

 

[Windjammer]

Has Pakistan? Did you invite India or gave brand new pictures of your assets? Just your "words", right? NYT report is based on satellite pics. Welcome to future! Don't blame the messenger! Plenty of renowned military experts bashing India left or right. None of them visited India.

Pakistan's main claim was shooting down IAF aircrafts, all the kills were scored over on Indian side at BVR distance.
To lend support to Pakistani claims, plenty of footage and images emerged from India. India claims it destroyed 12 PAF aircraft, show one proof regarding this....all India has got to show for itself is the damaged hangar at one PAF Base.
Lately even the serial numbers of Rafales shot down have been released.
What's stopping India from lining up its Rafale fleet , if the count is there, it will only humilate Pakistan.... a win win situation for Indians and Shivangi Singh .

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

This makes future Indian adventurism more likely, not less and in future engagements, India will learn from its mistakes and the golden latter Pakistan was served in May to punish at historical scale won’t be there.

Valid points. But, as for the Bharatis 100% rehauling themselves, it's a bit far fetched. As per Jinnah, even their leaders like Nehru don't learn anything new or unlearn what they have already learnt.....

As for the PAF, it's hyperactive to experiment with novel stuffs. And, it's entwined with hyperactive MICs of China and Turkey. Hence, by HIS PERMISSION, they will "surprise" the IAF next time too.....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

talking of count, why don't you ask your air chief to line up all the Rafael's and do an elephant walk for all of the world to see?

They're not even allowing the French to inspect! And, to appease them they're buying more Ra-fails, which means top $s being transferred to Ambani's pockets. It's a Win-Win.....

 

[Thinking]

Pakistan's main claim was shooting down IAF aircrafts, all the kills were scored over on Indian side at BVR distance.
To lend support to Pakistani claims, plenty of footage and images emerged from India. India claims it destroyed 12 PAF aircraft, show one proof regarding this....all India has got to show for itself is the damaged hangar at one PAF Base.
Lately even the serial numbers of Rafales shot down have been released.
What's stopping India from lining up its Rafale fleet , if the count is there, it will only humilate Pakistan.... a win win situation for Indians and Shivangi Singh .

Are you sure? India bombed half dozen bases, with satellite pics to show. NYT was talking about that. Did that humiltate anyone? Infact, I was told that not only damage was nothing, did nothing, Pakistan retaliated even harder and did so much damage (though NYT can't confirm any of that ...from space). So nah, I don't think both sides know what humiliation is or going to acknowledge it.

What happened to those "dead pilots" receiving award? I looked and looked and NOT ONE report from India but apparently someone in Pakistan attended and reported those rewards!

 

[r3alist]

"As a former elementary-school bully (turned high school punching bag), I’ll tell you a little secret: there is no “almost” in a fight. When you’re fighting somebody who “almost” hits people, you can relax. He won’t do shit.

I wish I had better news. I wish I could tell you there was a chance of a war worth watching down in that hellhole subcontinent. But there isn’t. They’ll probably wipe each other out someday, but till then it’s just going to be dead cows and villagers, and dumb generals in secondhand British uniforms talking big for the camera with their little moustaches going up and down, up and down."

War Nerd: Fag vs. Fag: the India-Pakistan Phoney War - By Gary Brecher - The eXiled

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That's an interesting article, a bit of a blast from the past, didn't realise it was circulating much around on the internet

I'm not sure that either side could ever have finality against the other, it's good to read some history because modern warfare almost precludes the ability to gain territory too much or even get into significant wars, Russia and Ukraine excepted.

Really, I don't think anyone here is built to survive a real historical battle before modernity

 

[r3alist]

Are you sure? India bombed half dozen bases, with satellite pics to show. NYT was talking about that. Did that humiltate anyone? Infact, I was told that not only damage was nothing, did nothing, Pakistan retaliated even harder and did so much damage (though NYT can't confirm any of that ...from space). So nah, I don't think both sides know what humiliation is or going to acknowledge it.

What happened to those "dead pilots" receiving award? I looked and looked and NOT ONE report from India but apparently someone in Pakistan attended and reported those rewards!

How is any of this a counter terrorism operation in Pakistan?

That's one thing we can all agree on, the whole terrorism tale does not have significant buyers globally.

This is just straight up military to military

 

[airwolf137]

Ambushing doesn't mean one-on-one fight. Anyways, leave this here.

Ambush, really? So either you are lying or your forces are lying when they said they were targeting places in Pakistan which ended in your planes getting shot down.

The level of lying here.... gosh...

 

[r3alist]

India bombed half dozen bases, with satellite pics to show.

You launched missiles. That's literally all you did.

You keep using massively generous wording.

Take out awacs? you launched missiles that might have created some debris that required some body work and a paint job. I'm not even validating that claim, I'm just saying that's the most that would have happened

 

[r3alist]

More like world doesn't give a f...If some "terror" act takes place in UK or USA, India won't give a s..t either. Your terrorists are your problem.

Huh?

I'm just saying in relation to your accusation you have literally received zero acceptance

And Indian media has asked plenty of times

Throwing a strop doesn't sound very thinking to me