India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

[ThoroughPro]

It's a bit ridiculous when you were claiming 3 Rafales to suddenly adding a another 2 months later.

your comment was a bit early, should have waited IAF chief to come out with his 6 jet claim after 3 months

 

[ThoroughPro]

It's very easy for India to bring down claims made by Pakistan, Donald Trump, Reuters, French intelligence and others. In fact India has an opportunity to humiliate PAF and Pakistan, Modi & Co. just need to listen and act on what this Indian MP is suggesting.

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Looks like he is on Pakistani payroll

 

[gusto]

Rot started some years ago, more Indian Army initially then spread to Navy and finally the air force, the more technical of the branches.

Initially it was making bribes on big defence contracts, but that happens in many countries, then moved on to small things that added up over time. Senior officers started to wear non standard uniforms and hats to differentiate themselves. Some functions and events were only open to 2 star officers and above, favours were given for easy postings, in the case of the Navy, wives were swapped!
Then of course Kargil and "Surgical strikes" then made it ok to start awarding fake gallantry awards. Fake encounters in Kashmir made it easy to claim "Terrorists" were killed when they killed innocent civilians. All of this ads up over time to create a moral rot. So it was not then a big jump from then to go on and lie about downing Pakistani jets. The junior and middle ranking officers seeing the example of their seniors and aping it.
Discipline is like a brick wall. You take out one small brick, and the wall remains standing and things seem fine, but it has weakened slightly, so you take out another small brick and so on and so on until.....

One can only imagine how such an organisation will fare in large scale intense combat where life of death decisions will need to be made under intense pressure and duress in seconds....

you took it to the wrong side, my friend.

but yes, you briefed it very well on what you picked, although that wasn't my point.

i was referring to what we are going through in Pakistan when i said: "the decay we are going through...".

 

[Windjammer]

Apart from the Four Rafales shot down over India , another Rafale was also hit as well, but managed to limp back to base.

"The fact that an Indian single-seater Rafale hit by a Pakistani air-to-air missile (of Chinese manufacture) managed to return safely and save the life of its pilot finally convinced the Indian Air Force of its desire to order a hundred Rafales".

Avec les Indiens il faut toujours s’armer de patience même si les voyants sont au vert depuis le printemps dernier, et notamment l’opération aérienne (mal ficelée) contre le Pakistan. Le fait qu’un Rafale monoplace indien touché par un missile air-air pakistanais (de facture chinoise) ait réussi à revenir à bon port et à sauvegarder la vie de son pilote a terminé de convaincre l’Indian Air Force de sa volonté de commander une centaine de Rafale.

and in particular the ( poorly put together ) air operation against Pakistan. The fact that an Indian single-seater Rafale hit by a Pakistani air-to-air missile ( of Chinese manufacture ) managed to return safely and save the life of its pilot finally convinced the Indian Air Force of its desire to order a hundred Rafales.

Le Dassault Aviation Rafale annoncé vainqueur en Inde du méga-contrat MRFA. — avionslegendaires.net

Le 13 août 2025, par Arnaud. Les médias spécialisés défense et économie en Inde sont en boucle depuis 24 heures sur la question. Toutes leurs sources annoncent une victoire du Aéronefs Militaires

www.avionslegendaires.net

 

[Yasser76]

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Apart from the Four Rafales shot down over India , another Rafale was also hit as well, but managed to limp back to base.

"The fact that an Indian single-seater Rafale hit by a Pakistani air-to-air missile (of Chinese manufacture) managed to return safely and save the life of its pilot finally convinced the Indian Air Force of its desire to order a hundred Rafales".

Avec les Indiens il faut toujours s’armer de patience même si les voyants sont au vert depuis le printemps dernier, et notamment l’opération aérienne (mal ficelée) contre le Pakistan. Le fait qu’un Rafale monoplace indien touché par un missile air-air pakistanais (de facture chinoise) ait réussi à revenir à bon port et à sauvegarder la vie de son pilote a terminé de convaincre l’Indian Air Force de sa volonté de commander une centaine de Rafale.

and in particular the ( poorly put together ) air operation against Pakistan. The fact that an Indian single-seater Rafale hit by a Pakistani air-to-air missile ( of Chinese manufacture ) managed to return safely and save the life of its pilot finally convinced the Indian Air Force of its desire to order a hundred Rafales.

Le Dassault Aviation Rafale annoncé vainqueur en Inde du méga-contrat MRFA. — avionslegendaires.net

Le 13 août 2025, par Arnaud. Les médias spécialisés défense et économie en Inde sont en boucle depuis 24 heures sur la question. Toutes leurs sources annoncent une victoire du Aéronefs Militaires

www.avionslegendaires.net

It is all coming out now!

I think this is what Warnes was referring to when he said India was lucky not to lose another Rafale.

If damaged beyond repair this could be the "4th" kill?

 

[PK781]

i have a personal feeling its a lot more than 4 rafales that r down.......

 

[Yasser76]

i have a personal feeling its a lot more than 4 rafales that r down.......

Not sure if this is a possible number 5, but PAF are not claiming it as a kill?

 

[Windjammer]

It is all coming out now!

I think this is what Warnes was referring to when he said India was lucky not to lose another Rafale.

If damaged beyond repair this could be the "4th" kill?

He actually said India lucky not to lose more than FOUR Rafales, meaning it could have been more than those confirmed shotdown.

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[flyingorca]

Or rastay mai apni jali howi gaand chortay howay baag gaya

 

[SABRE]

This Rafale shall be called William Brydon

 

[Bentley777]

Can laugh only utter nonsense this is.

 

[Yasser76]

He actually said India lucky not to lose more than FOUR Rafales, meaning it could have been more than those confirmed shotdown.

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Ah, I must have forgotten the exact post!

Wow! Just wow!!!!

So

5 Rafales (1 possibly damaged beyond repair)
1 Mirage 2000
1 MIG-29
1 SU-30
I UAV

Am I adding this up right?

 

[Windjammer]

These Four are said to have been shotdown , now waiting for the one damaged number .

1. BS001 No. 17 Squadron
2. BS022 No. 101 Squadron
3. BS027 No. 101 Squadron
4. BS021 No. 101 Squadron

 

[White Privilege]

Laga laga laga....zor ka PL-15 laga....

 

[Yasser76]

These Four are said to have been shotdown , now waiting for the one damaged number .

1. BS001 No. 17 Squadron
2. BS022 No. 101 Squadron
3. BS027 No. 101 Squadron
4. BS021 No. 101 Squadron

Sep Air Forces Monthly is out in a couple of days, Warnes spent 2 weeks in Pak just after the May skirmishes.

Expecting new reveals here...