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MS Sandhu said:
More or less I said the said the same thing in my previous post.

I said Su-57 is weak, you said no,its actually Russia that's weak when more or less we are making the same point.
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1. Strong or weak? These are relative concepts. They require a specific frame of reference for comparison.

Russia is a world-class military power and a formidable military force. From this perspective, their capabilities in areas such as the electronics industry, information technology, and telecommunications do indeed appear inconsistent with their international standing. However, if one compares their capabilities in these fields against those of second- or third-tier nations, they are by no means weak.

Russia possesses a deeply rooted technical heritage and fundamental capabilities in these domains. It is simply that, due to factors related to national strategy and economics, their demonstrated capabilities at the application level appear relatively modest.

2. System warfare and platform warfare are not comparable at the individual weapon level.

Given robust and comprehensive system support, a fighter jet's standalone combat capability is no longer the highest priority; instead, its role as a system node—an integral component within a larger network—is elevated to the primary priority. In public discourse, we typically attribute combat successes to the fighter aircraft itself, rarely acknowledging the underlying support infrastructure. Consequently, people often fall into the trap of making simplistic, direct comparisons between fighter jets. However, such comparisons are meaningless.

If the Su-57 were integrated into a complete and advanced air combat support ecosystem, it would outperform many of the current fifth-generation fighters (a prerequisite that Russia currently lacks).

Conversely, were the F-35 or F-22 fighters completely stripped of their support systems, they would not necessarily be able to defeat the Su-57. If an Su-57—backed by full system support—were to engage an F-35 or F-22 operating without such support, the Su-57 would secure an effortless victory. Under such conditions, even a JF-17B3 could win with ease. Yet, one certainly would not claim that the JF-17B3 is inherently superior to the F-35 or F-22.

From an objective standpoint, for the vast majority of countries worldwide that lack a comprehensive modern air combat support system, the Su-57 represents an excellent choice.

For the IAF, the Su-57 is far better suited to India than the Rafale or the AMCA.
 
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Dark-Lord said:
And I was right. 16th Tejas Mk1A completed first flight this month.
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Turns out I was wrong.
There are now 20 Tejas Mk1A ready.
 
Dark-Lord said:
Turns out I was wrong.
There are now 20 Tejas Mk1A ready.
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8 with engines. So now you are officially on record as claiming a plane with no engines is ready.

Well done. I would call you an clown, but do not want to insult professional circus workers worldwide....
 
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That sounds like trouble we need our own systems for offense and defense

Kv
 
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But - do they "all" have engines ???!?!
 
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