Indian Air Force News and Discussions ll

[Jaeger]

What pilots? If you have the satellite pictures, then surely you can show us the equipment destroyed can't you? All that satellite imagery but not a single pic of a destroyed aircraft? What about the bullshit claims of your air marshal, where's the 2 Erieyes and 6 Vipers destroyed? Been eating too much cow dung again ?

Sure. So much destruction yet not even single equipment loss admitted by Pakistan.

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[Corax]

Sure. So much destruction yet not even single equipment loss admitted by Pakistan.

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Buildings, where's the destroyed equipment? No, he said an aircraft was damaged, not destroyed.

Where's the 2 Erieyes and 6 Vipers claimed by your air marshal?

 

[Jaeger]

Buildings, where's the destroyed equipment? No, he said an aircraft was damaged, not destroyed.

Well obviously the destroyed equipment is inside the buildings.
Or Do you keep all your aircraft hangars empty and park your aircraft in the open ?

We can clearly see your aircraft hangars other airforce infrastructure have taken direct hits, since we are questioning about IAF credibility of not admitting to aircraft losses.

Have you ever asked you airforce what was inside those buildings which were destroyed?

 

[Corax]

Well obviously the destroyed equipment is inside the buildings.
Or Do you keep all your aircraft hangars empty and park your aircraft in the open ?

We can clearly see your aircraft hangars other airforce infrastructure have taken direct hits, since we are questioning about IAF credibility of not admitting to aircraft losses.

Have you ever asked you airforce what was inside those buildings which were destroyed?

Sure, because you, a random Indian, knows PAF SOP in wartime? Where's the 2 Erieyes and 6 vipers claimed by your air marshal?

 

[Watandar]

Well obviously the destroyed equipment is inside the buildings.
Or Do you keep all your aircraft hangars empty and park your aircraft in the open ?

We can clearly see your aircraft hangars other airforce infrastructure have taken direct hits, since we are questioning about IAF credibility of not admitting to aircraft losses.

Have you ever asked you airforce what was inside those buildings which were destroyed?

All India achieved was some ineffective hits on buildings that damaged one AWACS and killed 5 PAF ground crew. A few radars too. Pretty poor ROI for tens of millions worth of missiles launched by India.

And nothing compared to a billion dollars worth of losses from 5 Rafaels for India.

 

[Jaeger]

Sure, because you, a random Indian, knows PAF SOP in wartime? Where's the 2 Erieyes and 6 vipers claimed by your air marshal?

Sure.. please show wreckage of 8 IAF aircrafts which PAF claimed it shot down including 5 rafales and as well as wreckage of s400 radar which Pakistan destroyed.

 

[Corax]

Sure.. please show wreckage of 8 IAF aircrafts which PAF claimed it shot down including 5 rafales and as well as wreckage of s400 radar which Pakistan destroyed.

PAF claims 6 aircraft destroyed, of which there's abundant pics and videos. Your modi gave away destroyed S400 radar when he decided to do a propaganda show with just the launchers

 

[Jaeger]

PAF claims 6 aircraft destroyed, of which there's abundant pics and videos. Your modi gave away destroyed S400 radar when he decided to do a propaganda show with just the launchers

ISLAMABAD: A senior Pakistan Air Force (PAF) official said on Thursday that the PAF had downed eight Indian fighter jets during the brief military conflict between the two sides in May last year,

Pakistan Air Force says downed eight Indian fighter jets during May 2025 conflict

ISLAMABAD: A senior Pakistan Air Force (PAF) official said on Thursday that the PAF had downed eight Indian fighter jets during the brief military conflict between the two sides in May last year, stressing that Islamabad had not lost a single aircraft during the skirmishes. Pakistani and Indian...

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Here your prime minister claiming 7.

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You are now claiming your airforce on shot down 6.

Please then show us wreckage of 6 IAF aircrafts which were shot down.

If not showing S400 radar js a proof of its destruction then you haven't shown us all your AWACs either.

 

[Corax]

ISLAMABAD: A senior Pakistan Air Force (PAF) official said on Thursday that the PAF had downed eight Indian fighter jets during the brief military conflict between the two sides in May last year,

Pakistan Air Force says downed eight Indian fighter jets during May 2025 conflict

ISLAMABAD: A senior Pakistan Air Force (PAF) official said on Thursday that the PAF had downed eight Indian fighter jets during the brief military conflict between the two sides in May last year, stressing that Islamabad had not lost a single aircraft during the skirmishes. Pakistani and Indian...

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Here your prime minister claiming 7.

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You are now claiming your airforce on shot down 6.

Please then show us wreckage of 6 IAF aircrafts which were shot down.

If not showing S400 radar js a proof of its destruction then you haven't shown us all your AWACs either.

The PAF claim 6, with additional aircraft potentially written off after damage. I don't need to show you pics of 6 downed IAF aircraft, you've already seen them, and you know it we aren't the ones holding propaganda rallies to show no equipment destroyed, your modi is

 

[Jaeger]

The PAF claim 6, with additional aircraft potentially written off after damage. I don't need to show you pics of 6 downed IAF aircraft, you've already seen them, and you know it we aren't the ones holding propaganda rallies to show no equipment destroyed, your modi is

Sorry.. I haven't seen pictures of 6 downed aircraft, please present them here if they exist.

 

[Corax]

Sorry.. I haven't seen pictures of 6 downed aircraft, please present them here if they exist.

I ain't gonna spoon feed you, have a look in the relevent thread.

 

[Jaeger]

I ain't gonna spoon feed you, have a look in the relevent thread.

I know for fact you can't present evidence of 6 aircrafts shot down, because it does not exist.

That is why i asked you to present it here and I knew for a fact you would chicken out, which you did..thank you for your time.

 

[peacemaker99]

Please talk about IAF credibility once you admit what you lost during that war.

Has PAF or PA admitted its losses?

Buddy there is no evidence that pakistan lost any aeroplane. Through cunning, jazba and great game changing tactics they inflicted massive humiliating losses on bharti air farce while remaining perfect.

Dozens of air to air missiles were dodged by PAF on first day 1 through jamming and not one plane was lost. And when 12 basss were bombed, all bases were emptied. There is even rumor thst predictive analytics was used to strategically position aeroplane to ensure incoming missiles dont affect them.

Hell they even dodged s400 that even IRBM cannot stop.

We have to look inward.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Putin offers India joint production of the Su-57 fighter jet with full technology transfer. Will India buy Russian jets amid China-Pakistan military buildup?​

by TFIGLOBAL News Desk
June 5, 2026

Russian President Vladimir Putin has renewed Moscow’s pitch for India to join the development and production of the Su-57 fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, offering what he described as unrestricted cooperation and complete technology sharing.

Speaking during an interaction with heads of international news agencies at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) on Thursday, Putin said Russia remains open to making India a partner in the advanced fighter programme, a proposal that comes as New Delhi seeks solutions to address the Indian Air Force’s growing fighter aircraft shortfall.

“We offered our friends from India to jointly develop this machine, a fifth-generation aircraft. I think it is the best aircraft to date. But our Indian friends said, ‘Well, let’s see,’” Putin said, according to reports.

The Russian president further emphasized Moscow’s willingness to cooperate without restrictions.

“In principle, this could have been our joint product. We developed it independently. But we are ready to work with India, supply it, and develop it further. There will be no restrictions whatsoever,” Putin added, signaling a major offer of technology transfer.

Why Russia’s Su-57 Proposal Matters for India

Putin’s latest proposal arrives at a crucial moment for India’s military modernization plans. The Indian Air Force (IAF) has long sought a fifth-generation stealth fighter capability, especially as regional rivals rapidly upgrade their air combat fleets.

India’s indigenous Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) programme remains under development and is unlikely to enter operational service before 2035, creating a capability gap in the coming decade.

Military analysts believe the Su-57 could potentially serve as an interim solution while India develops its homegrown stealth platform.

According to reports, New Delhi has not entirely ruled out the Russian offer. State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is reportedly in discussions with Russia’s Sukhoi Design Bureau over possible cooperation. India is also believed to be evaluating the purchase of at least two squadrons (around 36 aircraft) if the jet meets IAF operational requirements.

The Collapse of the India-Russia FGFA Programme

India and Russia previously collaborated under the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) programme launched in 2007, which aimed to jointly develop a stealth fighter based on the Su-57 platform.

However, after years of negotiations, India withdrew from the programme in 2018–2021, citing multiple concerns, including:

> Rising project costs
>Limited clarity on technology transfer
>Concerns over stealth capabilities
> Engine performance issues
> Insufficient customization for Indian operational needs

At the time, Indian defense planners were reportedly unconvinced that the aircraft met fifth-generation standards comparable to Western stealth fighters.

Rising Regional Threats Push India to Reassess

The urgency surrounding India’s stealth fighter requirements has increased amid rapid military developments in Asia.

China already operates the J-20 stealth fighter** and is reportedly advancing next-generation combat aircraft projects, including the J-36 and J-50 programmes.

Meanwhile, Pakistan has reportedly moved closer to acquiring China’s J-35 stealth fighter, with reports suggesting Islamabad could procure up to 40 aircraft in the coming years.

Against this backdrop, the Indian Air Force faces mounting pressure to modernize as its fighter squadron strength continues to remain below sanctioned levels.

Could India Buy the Su-57?

Defense experts believe India may consider a limited purchase of the Su-57 as a stop-gap measure until the AMCA becomes operational. However, any deal would likely depend on several factors, including:

>Proven stealth and combat performance
> Engine reliability
> Extent of technology transfer
> Local manufacturing under “Make in India”
>Cost-effectiveness compared to alternatives

For now, New Delhi has not officially responded to Putin’s proposal. However, Russia’s renewed offer of unrestricted collaboration signals Moscow’s intent to deepen defense ties with India at a time of shifting geopolitical and military realities.

With China and Pakistan accelerating their stealth fighter ambitions, India’s next decision on fifth-generation air power could shape the balance of power in the region for decades.

 

[Oscar]

Its not like either of them have many choices available.

Unless India is waiting to see what is revealed from the covers by next year.