Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Distant_Observer]

Maybe Charity begins at home, your media and Political leadership celebrating Attacks in Balochistan, often heard talking about providing all support to BLA and Baloch Terrorists who murder innocent labors after identifying them to be Punjabi's, but a Attack happen in Kashmir and without any evidence or investigate somehow Pakistan is too blame ?

Pakistani media should now do the same. Repay in kind.

 

[CombatCorner]

Well, Indians do have the Rafales now and unlike February, the weather is warm and hardly any worthy cloud cover.
I'm in Pakistan and let's see if I can pick up some contrails .

 

[indushek]

If you see social media and mood on ground - it is MUCH more difficult to change than perception with such acts.
One of the FIRST comments on a news article on this was “Drama by ISI” - so this doesn’t make sense as a move.

The orphaned group idea does hold value since they are likely more to focus on non-combatants because it’s an easier target.

However , this does play into the idea of “Kashmir isn’t solved” which BJP has been pushing.

Lets see the optics of it -
Vance sees Kashmir needs to be solved , buys into Pakistan is sponsoring it and goes on a statement - establishment reacts and says its an issue.

In parallel Modi lands in KSA - sees this - talks to MBS who is looking to court Indian money and investment AND reciprocate - sends a message to establishment who say “it’s not us but we told you it wasn’t dead”

From a strategic perspective it’s a very pointless move(and not saying PK hasn’t done some idiotic pointless moves) but it has little impact domestically


UNLESS
India launches an all out conflict -
Not limited strikes - not tit for tat because it doesn’t kill the anti army sentiment Ive personally measured on the ground.

So I don’t see a wider conspiracy here but more so a case of either independent cell or independent actors.

Remember, what’s lost on all the angry folks here is that any larger conspiracy is difficult to keep under wraps due to moving pieces.

Not a word in there, that I will disagree with.

I just hope there is no hawk on this side, who wants to see some red for fun or to make some non existent point.

I actually and strangely feel, Munir saab might be more worried than our Modi ji.

Although there is one thing I will point out, that I just remembered...

Am not sure if you are aware of a gentleman called Dullat, who is ex RAW chief. Many call him a scumbag and ISI pet.. irrespective of the truth, he wrote a book that got published recently. Oh and before I forget, he is considered to be very very close to the Abdullah family in our side of Kashmir.

One of the explosive reveals in there is that.. when Article 370 was scrapped, Farooq and his son Umar both were ready to tag along with BJP for its repeal. Things is that, they were the ones who made the biggest noise and got home arrested before the elections were organized. Even more curious is that BJP was attacking them politically and in the most indiscriminate way, which you don't do when you are a political wizard who wins 8 out 10 elections all over India. So was all this play acting, so that they could get into power? The moment Umar became CM , his tone changed towards the Center. He was ready to cooperate, and his only demand is return of full state hood. Now this is one side of the story...

Now consider this... in last few months infiltration has been happening heavily, despite COIN having major successes. So who is aiding it, when the LOC is quiet?

The last bit of fact is that, in all this Mehbooba Mufti and her side have lost big in this election (PDP party). Could they be aiding some kind of action, to mount an attack on NC (Umar's party) and BJP? Lots of moving pieces for now.. tetris will settle at some point am sure, to read things better.

 

[arjunk]

Maybe Charity begins at home, your media and Political leadership celebrating Attacks in Balochistan, often heard talking about providing all support to BLA and Baloch Terrorists who murder innocent labors after identifying them to be Punjabi's, but a Attack happen in Kashmir and without any evidence or investigate somehow Pakistan is too blame ?

The thing is their arses are burning from a thousand years of Muslim rule, and in 1947 the British suddenly gave them most of South Asia on a silver platter. So now they’re dying to ‘get back’ at Pakistan as ‘revenge’ for the last thousand years.

It’s generational hatred that they concealed through insincere flattery and daughter selling.

 

[Waz]

We literally have the biggest military aged population much bigger than even chinese,

Your average age is 30, good luck. Hope you go first.

 

[arjunk]

Not a word in there, that I will disagree with.

I just hope there is no hawk on this side, who wants to see some red for fun or to make some non existent point.

I actually and strangely feel, Munir saab might be more worried than our Modi ji.

Although there is one thing I will point out, that I just remembered...

Am not sure if you are aware of a gentleman called Dullat, who is ex RAW chief. Many call him a scumbag and ISI pet.. irrespective of the truth, he wrote a book that got published recently. Oh and before I forget, he is considered to be very very close to the Abdullah family in our side of Kashmir.

One of the explosive reveals in there is that.. when Article 370 was scrapped, Farooq and his son Umar both were ready to tag along with BJP for its repeal. Things is that, they were the ones who made the biggest noise and got home arrested before the elections were organized. Even more curious is that BJP was attacking them politically and in the most indiscriminate way, which you don't do when you are a political wizard who wins 8 out 10 elections all over India. So was all this play acting, so that they could get into power? The moment Umar became CM , his tone changed towards the Center. He was ready to cooperate, and his only demand is return of full state hood. Now this is one side of the story...

Now consider this... in last few months infiltration has been happening heavily, despite COIN having major successes. So who is aiding it, when the LOC is quiet?

The last bit of fact is that, in all this Mehbooba Mufti and her side have lost big in this election (PDP party). Could they be aiding some kind of action, to mount an attack on NC (Umar's party) and BJP? Lots of moving pieces for now.. tetris will settle at some point am sure, to read things better.

Omar Abdullah is widely regarded to be a joker traitor.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

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[Oscar]

I dont see anyone benefiting from this attack.
Not India --> India will have to up its defence spending in the area.
Not Kashmiris --> Their earnings will fall + they will have to face more scrutiny and checkpoints in the near future
Not Pakistan --> They will have to be on their toes anticipating an Indian retaliation. The already dire finances will be further stretched.

Only beneficiary will be Pakistan generals who can use this to quell opposition in Pakistan and say that we need to stay focused on possible Indian counterattack.

But that doesn’t actually translate to the ground anymore. You are living off a 5 year old version of Pakistanis when today’s social media generation is “over-aware” of such concepts.

 

[Starlord]

If I remember right, Pakistani leaders immediately blamed India, why is this any different

India openly talks about supporting BLA, your national security advisor Doval talks about, your media brings Baloch separatists leaders to talk about their side of the Story, your people cheer when innocent labor is brutally killed, so don't think for a second that India is not using Terrorism inside Pakistan via BLA/TTP, Pakistan not always blames India for every attack, for example a lot of Attacks from TTP side on KPK were blamed and find its traces to Afghan Taliban, while Pakistan also asked Iran to take action against BLA leadership in their country, so saying that Pakistan always and just blames India is not true, but both Pakistan and India are still stuck in stupid games, using insurgencies to harm innocent civilians on both side, when in reality IOK or AJK is not going anywhere..

 

[arjunk]

I dont see anyone benefiting from this attack.
Not India --> India will have to up its defence spending in the area.
Not Kashmiris --> Their earnings will fall + they will have to face more scrutiny and checkpoints in the near future
Not Pakistan --> They will have to be on their toes anticipating an Indian retaliation. The already dire finances will be further stretched.

Only beneficiary will be Pakistan generals who can use this to quell opposition in Pakistan and say that we need to stay focused on possible Indian counterattack.

So you see, this attack, if not a false flag, was carried out not by some strategic thinking actor or infiltrating spies, but angry local youth radicalized by india’s occupation and targeting of innocent civilians.

 

[indushek]

Omar Abdullah is widely regarded to be a joker traitor.

Do you consider Mehbooba to be a true Kashmiri then? Since she lost?

 

[hussain0216]

FAFO moment is loading.. stay safe brother if you are in Pakistan.. avoid crowded markets and any other landmarks

Partition is inevitable, remember this India will split apart, because YOU are a enemy and you stupidly trapped hundreds of millions and then pulled this hindutva shit and now you go around with your Kala goofy face asking why are Kashmiri and Indian Muslims so agitated

 

[indushek]

So you see, this attack, if not a false flag, was carried out not by some strategic thinking actor or infiltrating spies, but angry local youth radicalized by india’s occupation and targeting of innocent civilians.

That's jumping to conclusions, as you are not aware of the infiltrations and their current status.

There are many who shelter the border crossovers

 

[Al-Zakir]

This is bad. How many people have to die before we bring the axe down on the root cause once and for all.

We know the root cause, now we need the solution.

India and Pakistan should come to an agreement and settle this issue for everlasting peace in SA.

 

[vasanthm]

but both Pakistan and India are still stuck in stupid games, using insurgencies to harm innocent civilians on both side, when in reality IOK or AJK is not going anywhere..

True, but my feeling is India is more than willing to accept that "IOK or AJK is not going anywhere" but It's Pakistan that keeps chasing fantasies of “liberation,” fueling proxy wars and insurgencies, unable to move on from a 1947 hangover.