Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[the vicious kind]

This is evidence of nothing.

Indian and Pakistani forces have been shooting each other at the border for decades, and not a single month has gone by when that has not happened.

You reply with this shows your ignorance.

No there has been a cease-fire in place since 2021 . Alright , lets see what happens and i hope to god that i am wrong.

 

[r3alist]

It's called the meat grinder for a reason. Russia has employed it to great effect in Ukraine. They lose 1000 soldiers, but gain 50km.

Based on your responses, in order not to get a scratch nothing will get ground, except in preparing your white flag

 

[RAJPUT]

Well kaha se aate hai aise experts

He said that war is already started, and since can't win the war if fought by airforce, navy or army.

Only - option - use nuclear

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Do you not grasp the severity of what India is doing? Threats of starving 250 million people! What else but all out nuclear war. We would die either way, so what difference does it make?

 

[Path-Finder]

The stars have all aligned, Trump is in office, another false flag and another jingoistic rhetoric.

usually history repats itself over a period of about a century, sometimes over a longer time period. but 2019 seems have returned far quicker. Like watching history channel plus 1.

But this time around we have a divided nation under a fake government. No leadership of any substance whom can rally the nation.

In 6 years we have fallen in a moat.

 

[5thgenEnjoyer]

here you go

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Stage 2 now....

 

[5thgenEnjoyer]

The stars have all aligned, Trump is in office, another false flag and another jingoistic rhetoric.

usually history repats itself over a period of about a century, sometimes over a longer time period. but 2019 seems have returned far quicker. Like watching history channel plus 1.

But this time around we have a divided nation under a fake government. No leadership of any substance whom can rally the nation.

In 6 years we have fallen in a moat.

I sure do love living through major historical events.....
In other news, welcome back bro

 

[KingQamaR]

The Indians don't care if a bunch of Kashmiri Muslims die.

Also, destroying those dams would directly lead to war. There won't be "increasing tensions" and then India backing off. India will literally launch a full scale war, and do you honestly think Pakistan will be able to win against those human waves that India will throw at Pakistan?

Of course you target anything and everything in war.

 

[That_Guy]

And India diverting water will lead to your eventual starvation and death under scorching heat

India diverting war on a large scale will lead to war.

In theory many millions could die without adequate water resources......
.. disease, malnutrition, displacement of people, poverty and starvation

sure.

That's tolerable....but imagined human waves coming from India are not? Geeeez, if that prospect doesn't sharpen the mind....

its not tolerable, neither is tolerable.

I'm not making any of the arguments you're claiming I'm making.

I'm saying nothing will happen.

YOU insist that either either war, or slow starvation and dehydration death.

That's YOUR argument.

Not mine.

Tldr; armies precisely exist to protect the basic necessity for existence

Sure, but war is not preferable, especially against a bigger neighbor that has a numerical advantage, is diplomatically stronger, and that is mostly technologically on par with you.

You can find a solution long term with enough time if you don't have a war.

With war, if you lose, it's all over. And there is guarantee of victory.

 

[That_Guy]

Of course you target anything and everything in war.

The same goes for India. They'd absolutely retaliate, and start striking Pakistani dams.

 

[Fox]

I have no idea why this idiot is so apologetic. Why did he not expose the direct Indian involvement in terrorism in Pakistan? He was just talking about irrelevant things of the past, blaming here and there of the past. Total failure. The host was saying again and again that India blaming Pakistan for cross border terrorism. He was supposed to counter that. Why he was not hitting the issue directly that Indian is lying. We are not involved in it. Contrarily, India has been actively supporting and using terrorism in Pakistan to bleed us.

This silly guy should not be allowed to have any foreign media in future. Leave the job to a professional like the foreign secretary.

I think the foreign office should immediately arrange for a couple of interviews with foreign media (such as Al Jazeera, CNN, and BBC) given by some professionals/foreign office and people from think tanks. Also, our diplomats at the UN must be moved to start an aggressive diplomatic activity to counter false Indian narrative, keep the world community aware of our position, and dangers to regional peace from the sick-minded criminal Modi.

Khawaja Asif was unprepared for the interview. He came across as confused and lacked confidence. It is the opposite of what he is expected to project as the defence minister in this tense situation.

Perhaps his age is catching up with him.

 

[That_Guy]

No there has been a cease-fire in place since 2021 . Alright , lets see what happens and i hope to god that i am wrong.

You ARE wrong.

There has been a ceasefire since 2001. Both sides still frequently violate it, India mostly in recent years.

Just a month or two ago, there was a slight flare up when India accused Pakistan of shooting at Indian soldiers, and a few months even further when Pakistan accused India of sniping Pakistani positions.

 

[KingQamaR]

The same goes for India. They'd absolutely retaliate, and start striking Pakistani dams.

Target some of their largest dams and their nuclear reactors. From military standpoint they are valid targets that’s the whole point of war destroying countries ability to wage war,

 

[KingQamaR]

Asim Munir and the Manufactured Crisis: A Nation Held Hostage by its Military Elite

In recent months, Pakistan has stood precariously close to the edge of conflict, not due to external provocation, but because of the internal desperation of its military leadership. At the center of this calculated chaos stands General Asim Munir, the Chief of Army Staff, whose actions betray a disturbing willingness to manufacture external confrontations to mask internal failures.

In February 2025, credible information surfaced suggesting that the Pakistani military regime was actively considering the provocation of India—or even inviting an attack on the Line of Control (LoC)—in a last-ditch attempt to unify a disillusioned populace and rehabilitate its tarnished image. This is not statecraft. It is a reckless and pathetic gamble by a military elite that has run out of political currency and domestic legitimacy.

The events surrounding the Pahalgam terrorist attack in Indian-Occupied Kashmir (IOK) on April 22, 2025, lend alarming weight to these suspicions. Reportedly, 26 Indian tourists were killed during the attack. As the massacre unfolded, the Director-General of Inter-Services Intelligence (DG ISI), Lt. Gen. Asim Malik, chaired a critical meeting with top ISI division heads. On the agenda: diaspora manipulation, political engineering to weaken PTI, control over the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) protests, and clandestine operations across Pakistan's borders.

Multiple sources within the Pakistani intelligence community have alleged that this attack at Pahalgam was ordered by none other than General Asim Munir himself. His motivations appear chillingly clear: to provoke an Indian retaliation that could galvanize public opinion in his favour and reposition the military as the last bastion of national defense.

But this time, the old playbook is failing. For the first time in Pakistan’s history, the military does not enjoy majority support in a potential face-off with India. In fact, many Pakistanis, judging by the reactions across social media platforms, are relieved to see the military's stranglehold being challenged. How the mighty have fallen.

The outrage has even reached the military’s inner sanctums. Top brass now privately acknowledge that Asim Munir has steered Pakistan onto a path of self-destruction. His decisions have isolated Pakistan diplomatically, alienated allies like Saudi Arabia and the UAE, and rendered the country an international pariah. His continued leadership is not just a national liability; it is a ticking time bomb. India's suspension of the Indus Water Treaty has triggered alarm bells in water-stressed Pakistan, a lower riparian state already grappling with severe water shortages. The situation is particularly tense in Sindh, where public protests have erupted over dwindling water supplies and controversial plans to construct new canals on the River Indus.

One must also question the silence of Nawaz Sharif, the so-called benefactor of Asim Munir. Why has he not condemned India’s threats post-Pahalgam? Could it be that he too knows who truly orchestrated the attack?

The truth is difficult to digest, but it must be spoken. From the Mumbai attacks to Pulwama, and now Pahalgam, a pattern of rogue elements within the military conducting operations to serve narrow institutional interests is undeniable. During Pulwama, Asim Munir was the DG ISI. Now, as Army Chief, he is once again at the helm amid another international crisis.

To add insult to injury, ISI's digital propaganda units have been frantically spinning the narrative online, using VPNs to circumvent bans and deflect blame. Their efforts only underscore the regime's desperation and moral bankruptcy.

And yet, clarity has begun to pierce the fog. From Islamabad to Karachi, many Pakistanis are now openly questioning the motives of their military leaders. The killing of innocent civilians in Pahalgam is being seen not as a strategic maneuver, but as a war crime ordered by a cabal of generals with no mandate from the people.

A Pakistani medical doctor told me today: "I speak as a Pakistani, as a Muslim, and as someone who grew up seeing donation boxes in Islamabad for the 'Kashmir jihad.' Our faith taught us to support the oppressed—but not to abandon them as cannon fodder. If Pakistan truly believes in the Kashmiri cause, it must act openly, transparently, and within the bounds of international law. Anything less is cowardice dressed up as patriotism."

Having grown up in Islamabad myself, I resonate with these words completely.
We must demand accountability. Asim Munir must be suspended pending a transparent inquiry. The perpetrators of the Pahalgam attack must be tried and punished. Pakistan cannot move forward while its military leadership operates above the law, driven by personal vendettas and delusions of grandeur.

To the world, we say: hold Pakistan's military accountable, not its people. To India, we say: your occupation of Kashmir is illegal, and your collective punishment of its people is equally reprehensible. But this does not justify acts of terrorism, especially not those orchestrated for self-serving military objectives.

To our own people: do not let fear silence you. The truth liberates both the individual and the nation.

History will remember this moment. Let it remember us as those who chose clarity over confusion, and courage over complicity.

Fkn get out.

 

[Path-Finder]

The REAL Mir Jaffars of Pakistan are the Imrandoos as in this screen cap!
@Musings : These people need to be at least stopped from bringing Pakistani politics into everything. WTH is wrong with them?!!

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Nice! AI generated?