Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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HAIDER said:
Poor muslims, how much they have to prove their loyalty...under RSS rule....very sad...
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I have always found while living in many countries, that while Indian Hindus hate us (and Muslims), the Indian Muslims are always the most vocally against Pakistan. I have talked to many of them about it and they have usually given 3 very genuine reasons:
  • Their ancestors did not move to Pakistan because they were not in favour of Pakistan anyway (hence they are no fan of Pakistan to begin with)
  • They are always mocked for being Muslims, in Schools, Workplaces, Society, so their best defense since they are children, is to show extra enmity to Pakistan, to prove that they are loyal to India
  • Whenever any act of terrorism happens (even if Pakistan is not responsible for it), they feel that because of Pakistan, they are coming under attacks, so that makes them 'hate' Pakistan even more (as causing trouble for them from a distance), as they feel that Pakistanis are sitting under a safe Muslim society and strong Army, in nice cities and rights that are mostly catered for them, but Indian Muslims do not enjoy either of these and have to prove their nationalism and suffer because of Pakistan.
In a way if you look at it from an independent point of view, you cannot blame them. You have to make do what you have to make do, to survive in such a radicalized society.
 
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Blain2 said:
There will not be a need to destroy anything. Somethings just don't happen like this IWT nonsense. Nobody wants to be in the business of setting a precedent that'd leave themselves high and dry.
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I have a feeling that if Pak establishment doesn’t let up & provides no off ramp to Modi this time around then he’ll be bumped off by the Indian establishment in a year or two. My hunch is that he’ll be taken care of the Shastri/Bipin Rawat way instead of Indira/Rajiv method.

Good to see you on the forum once again btw.
 
Even if it's India bluff again ...Pak army should strike in Kashmir and strike hard ...

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HAIDER said:
Even if it's India bluff again ...Pak army should strike in Kashmir and strike hard ...

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We should have taken a strong stance back in 2019 when Kashmir's status was changed. That was the step 1 where India claimed Kashmir and all its infra. We could have gone to ICJ, WB, UN. China was far more upset about it at the time than Pakistan and they were more vocal abt it than Pakistan. Its too late now. We could have joined up with them. In any case, its neither late now. the decision to at least inform India that changes to IWT will be an act of war, is a good start to get this bully be on notice. Lets see where it goes form here and if India is stupid enough to keep going with it.
 
Blain2 said:
In the moment, whether it was IK, SS, NS, BB, Munir, Musharraf, Bajwa, they all would react in the exact same way and the Pakistani nation, alhamdolillah, will always back them.
There are times in the lives of nations where petty internal fighting and politics need to be set aside to preserve our future.
These times are like that.
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Khinzeer Bajwa was a traitor through & through. It’s an absolute Shame that he’s not taken care of by the establishment itself. The games he was playing emboldened Modi & India to carry out Pulwama/Balakot.
 
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Indians have already tried that on the LoC at several places including Leepa and the Neelam Valley. They were hammered properly and forced to vacate their positions only to retreat behind hills. These idiots could not even get into Korutana dagger on WB by even an inch. The dagger is surrounded by India on three sides. Cowards.
 
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Even if it's India bluff again ...Pak army should strike in Kashmir and strike hard ...

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This all bullshit! They all should go back to have 30-minute silence on every Friday to protest Modi's 5 Aug 2019 actions. They forgot to do that after the first Friday.
 
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Aggregate said:
During the Galwan war, while the war was going on, the stupid Indian show hosts were shouting around that "Ladies and Gentelemen, the main Chinese army (not sure what they meant by that term) are now refusing to assist the Chinese soldiers in Galwan because Chinese Economy is getting hit by India" XD I kid you not, they were actually spreading propaganda that Chinese army is refusing to help ... its own army ...

Another Major Indian Channel was listing the names of around 22 Chinese soldiers that India had apparently killed and made the Chinese "retreat" (as a breaking news). Later on it was found out that they were reading a prank whatsapp message and the names were a mix of food brands and fictional characters form Japan.

A so called 'Defense Analyst' opened up some map that was showing showing 25 Sq Km of Land in the Galwan area, greyed it out and he claimed that India had "captured this area from the Chinese in the last 2 days". And Indian hosts shouting at how China has learned the "Indian Might". Turns out it was a map of Chinese line of sight within India's exiting territory (not captured). They were celebrating India capturing what was its own territory that was never taken by anyone to begin with.

Imagine the kind of BS Indian Media will come up with about China, if a war starts between India and Pakistan.
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I remember their infamous story of a brave Sikh soldier brought down 4-5 Chinese soldiers with him off the clif even in bare hand, so does a company holding off and killed a thousand Chinese in 1962 or something, lol.
 
Tejas Spokesman said:
Meanwhile in reality, India has 6 times the airborne capability of Pakistan.
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Yes all very good, but that capability gets blown out of the sky like Abhinandan did when you cannot use it effectively anyway, due to the state of your airforce. Its your people saying this all, not Pakistan:, look the the vide below:
  • 13:30 : Only 50% - 55% of Indian Fleet is flight-worthy at any point
  • 10:25: Pakistan has more AEW&C aircraft than India and is better at Air Refuelers, at a 9 times smaller budget.
  • 14:20: India severely lacks technical staff to operate the latest equipment
  • Pakistan's JF17 is long under use of several other Airforces around the world with more on the order. India's Tejas is not even ready since the last 35 years for Indian Airforce itself.
and this is when India is facing 3 enemies around it, it cannot even compete with Pakistan alone. What is the point of buying planes upon planes and Rfales upon Rafales when according to this video you are short of 70-120 trainee pilots every year, 50% of your air force is down at any given point and you do not have technical staff to operate it. that is why it has been 10 days and your planes are coming and running away, unable to fight Pakistan.

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Not sure if this is because of the standoff but seems worth mentioning. Balochistan has become quiet since the standoff. There's no reports of any major ops by security forces or terrorist attacks. Security forces have been performing better since the standoff as well, with the 70 terrorists killed on the border and less attacks taking place on security forces.
 
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