Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Mirzali Khan]

So much for brotherhood, Afghans should get out of Pakistan now

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No one takes Aryanna Saeed seriously she's a fat piece of plastic

 

[hussain0216]

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Gee I wonder why Kashmiri hate you so much and Indian Muslims want freedom

 

[Musings]

I am off with the title – why can't you accept that terrorists killed innocent people, as we called them, and you called them freedom fighters?

The problem with Pakistan today is that, due to international pressure, they don’t openly support such terrorists but instead try to justify acts of terrorism through selective narratives. In the end, they sell a completely different version of the story to their own public, often claiming that India staged a false operation.

At least, I’ve consistently spoken out — I’ve condemned attacks in Pakistan, whether they targeted civilians or soldiers. Terrorism should be condemned, regardless of borders.

But honestly, I find it hopeless dealing with this mentality — where such incidents spark misguided fantasies. And at what cost? The individual who acted as a terrorist and took innocent lives will inevitably face the consequences.

And when it comes to China, it’s usually brought up by Pakistan — not just PDF members but also by Pakistani politicians and mainstream media.

No sane person will show glee when innocent people are targeted.
I am reacting to Indian rhetoric when they go down the avenue of “the problem with Pakistan is”. We have to wait for evidence and then make statements of fact.
Speculation is dangerous and no one wins.

 

[RAJPUT]

Yaar, there was attack a school in pakistan - Who was blamed?

Anyway, I didn't say that terrorists came from Pakistan... right?

Then how are you blaming Pakistan for this attack? If no Pakistani is involved, how did it all of a sudden become Pakistans fault that you guys had a lapse of security in the heaviest militarised zone in the world? Also, do you guys not ask your Home Minister why this happened? How did these people reach at a tourist destination with no alarm bells when they were travelling with assault rifles. And then how tf did they escape and where to? Ask your politicians. It is always convenient for them to blame Pakistan.
Also what school attack are you talking about? The Army Public School attack? If so, we intercepted comms directly originating from inside India who the attackers were DIRECTLY communicating with. So of course we blamed you.

 

[Starlord]

Bholay shah, the establishment and IK were on the same page in Afghan policy. However, IK was foolish to assume that he could control the establishment and push for changes within, he found out the hard way. Pakistani politicians have no true power and elections are a sham. However, Pakistan's Afghan policy coupled with myriad of internal issues have created an impression of weakness that India seems to exploit.

I am glad we can agree partially on this but this is not the thread to discuss Pakistan's politics.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

1. Trump praise Pakistan
2. US team visit Pakistan mineral conference

3... Jeets who consider USA their mai baap in panic attack kill their own to cry crocodile tears so USA can sanction Pakistan.

Pathetic

 

[the vicious kind]

when did I do that? I didn't even mention Pakistan at all ... read my post again

Its not only about India and Pakistan. Brother, go see Indian Twitter posts, you will see that their tv personalities , influencers, defence analysts and actors are calling for genocide against muslims. You can also see posts of indians there, calling on their own muslim countrymen to be killed. This has been happening since the last decade.

 

[r3alist]

So much for brotherhood, Afghans should get out of Pakistan now

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You Iranians are really strange!!! Did you become sentient on yesterday incident ? Do you know how many Kashmiri are detained in Indian occupation prisons in IOK. Thousands are detained without convincing reasons. Indians army have been doing all sorts to innocent Kashmiris woman , children rapes , murderer s and forced disappearances. You can’t expect Kashmiri mujahideen them to play nice though right ? Or does that only apply to Kashmiris?

It's the Iran, Shia, wahabi, Saudi, whatever else lobbies that are strange to begin with internally

Iran is all about hard structural reality for its own power and survival... remember they killed more Pakistanis during Gaza than they did anyone else..... just saying..... They are not foe so let's not go that far, but Kashmir is relevant then it's not then it is

Perhaps before there was margin olfor error to tolerate these types, you think so now?

 

[Meengla]

@Meengla from International Geopolitics, if 2 nuclear armed countries are on verge of a small scale war, with threats of Missiles strikes on civil military installation, don't you think that will divert some attention of International media and UN from a on-going Genocide and forced displacement in the middle East? As Iran/US is closer to a deal and some dreams of a larger regional conflict will be shattered but another war in the region of the world which holds around half the world population will cause some concerns around the world ? Maybe Jacob's/David's have pitched the idea to our Modi Jee to start a tussle in S.Asia ?

Nobody knows what's going on especially when the POTUS changes his policies on hourly basis. We are all here just guessing, wishing, chest thumping, breast beating, wailing, condemning, hoping...

I tend to think Gaza is over as a military theater as is Syria unless Turkey and/or Yemen have some surprises. The Iran-America talks are still fluid but, if they fail then expect a major war, then certainly Pakistan will come to a sharp relief globally. And it is very sad that some Imran Khan supporters here had started a popular thread apologizing to Iran for Pakistan betraying Iran. WTH is wrong with these people??!!! Have they lost all marbles?!!
Anyway, the more I think about it, especially in light of Trump's extreme focus to isolate China, and the increased terrorism inside Pakistan, and high chance of an Israel/America vs Iran war, it is hard to resist that Modi's over-reaction is not connected to the larger geopolitical issues. I wish I was wrong but it is what it is.

 

[Eşbah]

Situation update

• India suspends Indus Waters Treaty, closes Attari border check post
• PM Shehbaz convenes meeting of National Security Committee for Thursday
• Indian defence minister vows “loud and clear” response
• All gunned down were men from across India, barring one from Nepal
• Heavy security near site as India launches search operation, claims killing 2 in ‘infiltration attempt’
• Trump offers Modi ‘full support’ as China, others condemn incident
• Modi to convene security cabinet meeting in evening
• Call for shutdown in occupied Kashmir in protest against attack

Pahalgam attack: India suspends Indus Waters Treaty with immediate effect, closes Attari border crossing

Says Pakistanis not allowed to enter India under Saarc Visa Exemption Scheme; PM Shehbaz convenes National Security Committee meeting on Thursday.

www.dawn.com

What message is India trying to communicate right now with this umbrella of 'sanctions' and 'actions'?

Military response not needed?

 

[Be dazzled]

The treaty is suspended- do what you have to do.

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Increase surveillance around your water reservoirs the pink one.

 

[Liquidator]

So much for brotherhood, Afghans should get out of Pakistan now

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Clearly AI generated
Look at the writing on placards

 

[hussain0216]

What message is India trying to communicate right now with this umbrella of 'sanctions' and 'actions'?

Military response not needed?

They have cornered themselves, in a perfect world (for them) they would direct their anger at Pakistan and hit random targets in a show of force for their own population

But they know that will cause Pakistan to hit back hard with a array of assets and possibly kick of a destructive battle/war that no one can afford that will only result in death and destruction and then a end to the war


So short of military action, they are forced to do something that they can fluff up as a major response to their own population at least, to try and calm them down

 

[the vicious kind]

What message is India trying to communicate right now with this umbrella of 'sanctions' and 'actions'?

Military response not needed?

Right now, both governments are under immense pressure. In the subcontinent, emotions often take precedence over reason — and leaders, driven by ego and short-sighted ambition, tend to act on impulse rather than rational thinking.

We are probably looking at 2019 style kinectic conflict at the very least. This is why subcontinent can never prosper.

 

[Starlord]

Nobody knows what's going on especially when the POTUS changes his policies on hourly basis. We are all here just guessing, wishing, chest thumping, breast beating, wailing, condemning, hoping...

I tend to think Gaza is over as a military theater as is Syria unless Turkey and/or Yemen have some surprises. The Iran-America talks are still fluid but, if they fail then expect a major war, then certainly Pakistan will come to a sharp relief globally. And it is very sad that some Imran Khan supporters here had started a popular thread apologizing to Iran for Pakistan betraying Iran. WTH is wrong with these people??!!! Have they lost all marbles?!!
Anyway, the more I think about it, especially in light of Trump's extreme focus to isolate China, and the increased terrorism inside Pakistan, and high chance of an Israel/America vs Iran war, it is hard to resist that Modi's over-reaction is not connected to the larger geopolitical issues. I wish I was wrong but it is what it is.

I think Iran will make a deal, if not that even in case of war it will be costly for both America/Israel although Iran will lose but the damage will be done to American influence in region and Trump reputation will be shattered a deal maker or anti war, plus more people will raise question about America yet again went to war for Israel, Americans won't react nicely to get their sons & daughters in body bags, connecting this to the incident that I think this could play a larger role to divert some attention from Middle east, Indians love/support to BLA, and some major bold attacks from BLA in past several months have really pissed some people in Pakistan, and once major crack down started against the likes of BLA supporters this incident happen, and now for couple of months/ or year in case of a skirmish we will be focusing on Eastern border, we also made some breakthrough with Afghans to stop TTP, the timing seems to be very odd, it hard to see all that in isolation.