Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Hybrid]

Well, you got your reply in Kashmir. Also very cost effective.

You think you can spread terror in Pakistan and just walk away unharmed?

The this your reply. Soft targets for this we dont even need TTP..that standard of paksitan really come down..
Let's have a count who lose how many in 2025.
I bet it will be 1:3 ratio.. I will more than happy to take this ratio. If this is pakistan replay

 

[SaadH]

Pakistani and Pakistan is stuck in balakot
If this is your benchmark.. I will relive.

Not even Even 5% assets are used in this skirmish.. In a bigger game mnay thing will come into picture

Like what Hindutva wunderwaffes inspired by your Nazi ideological counterparts?

 

[KingQamaR]

This is enough:

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No doubt that Pakistan will do it again.

Tea was fantastic ️

 

[Hybrid]

You think Pakistan doesn't have any toys? When push comes to shove Pakistan has the ability to set the record straight.

If you think that Pakistan has used anything against India yet you better think again.

5 % from both sides not India

 

[Dalit]

The this your reply. Soft targets for this we dont even need TTP..
Let's have a count who lose how mnay in 2025 ..
I bet it will be 1:3 ratio.. I will more than happy to take this ratio. If this is pakistan replay

Don't cry now. Don't you kill Pakistani citizens through TTP and BLA proxies? Cry me rivers buddy.

Just make a move and see what happens. Don't rant like an angry emotional rat.

 

[Dalit]

5 % from both sides not India

5% ka bacha. Did you count and do the math?

 

[Hybrid]

Like what Hindutva wunderwaffes inspired by your Nazi ideological counterparts?

Not interested in trolls sorry

 

[Oscar]

Here is the pattern of this army.

On 5 August 2019, the government of India revoked the special status of Kashmir.
Bajwa and ISI kept the development hidden from the PMIK giving India carte blanche. Complicity.

Unilateral Ceasefire on LOC in 2021 essentially completing Indian cessation of IOK and accepting LOC as border. Complicity.

22 Kashmiris, Sikhs killed in pak in last 2 years. Not possible without isi complicity.

Last 4 weeks no terrorist activity in pak.
Army switched off the switch.
Complicity

As Asim Muneer and army under immense pressure, the attack in Kashmir goes in their favor they will tacitly take the responsibility and at best will use bravado to escalate.

Now India has ended Indus Water treaty so a war is imminent.

Pakistan burns, army survives.
They don't care.

How could Bajwa hide anything from IK unless IK himself was an ignorant buffoon?

Like supposedly you were tracking all campaign activities via a dashboard in elections, have smart people all surrounding you yet are so lost in your thoughts that you ignore all briefings even through common sense news articles?

This is stupid carte blanche to paint IK as some naive baby put into the seat while on the opposite side you all claim he is Jinnah reincarnated and maaz allah majazi Rasool.

Nothing was hidden from him but it is possible briefings given to him miscalculated 370 impact and risk - and he isn’t exactly a geopolitical genius so he kept to it. Bajwa and Co having their own interests is NO EXCUSE for the leader of a nuclear state with supposedly majority public mandate to feign ignorance and say منے کی پتہ

UNILATERAL ceasefire is an authority the establishment has exercised and frankly armies of BOTH sides have exercised at the sector level as well. Which is why there isn’t just a hotline between PM houses on both sides- there are hotlines at Chief levels and hotlines at brigade and sector levels too.

Once again, joining dots for conspiracy and complicity is just trying to feel good for your PoV when plain incompetence can help answer it more logically and easily.

The deaths of all those individuals were FACILITATED by Afghan(and other elements) within Pakistan which the establishment and general state of Pakistan either nurtured in the past or simply ignored. Now if those elements were not monitored or ignored because the assets and resources are too busy idiotically trying to suppress you and those like you or any negative opinion online then its much less complicit willingly and more so complicit by incompetence and misuse of resources.

 

[Dalit]

Not interested in trolls sorry

Just bring it on and stop wasting our precious time.

 

[Starlord]

i dont think theyd make it accross the border, let alone anywhere meaningful. As i said, meat grinder and fertilizer...

The fire power is much more devastating these days as it was back in 65 or 71, one right air strike can take out many many soldiers, and its true on both sides. But unfortunately Indian media thinks everything is just a movie or bollywood, sensational reports and war drums are been beaten for days, that also puts pressure on Govt which may or maynot wants a direct confrontation.

 

[Borderlands]

It does matter, already answered previously on this thread. TIbet is still the source of Brahmaputra and China still controls the headwaters of that river.

Brahmaputra is a highly sediment-rich river. Chinese dams could trap sediment, alter flood cycles, and disrupt the downstream.

China has already shown on the Mekong River that control over headwaters, even with lower contribution to volume, can have outsized impact downstream during droughts. It controls water flow to thaliand , Burma and countless other countries downstream.

It doesnt matter how large India's dam is since the Chinese dam is upstream and China is building a 60,000 MW dam ( the worlds largest) there. They intend to control the flow of water downstream just like they did with Mekong.

Except that the situation is not similar to Mekong River. Brahmaputra flow through only 2 Indian states,Assam and Arunachal Pradesh. 90% of Brahmaputara's water comes from territory outside Tibet. North Eastern India is one of the most wettest places on this planet and Arunachal and Assam receives more water than it can ever consume. May be you should learn a bit about geography and learn about Himalayan mountains and Indian monsoon. Unlike Thailand or Burma, India's Himalayan territories gets monsoon, upwards of 3,000 mm an year, which contributes to much of Himalayan glaciers and water for Himalayan rivers.

India already building it's largest dam few kms downstream of Chinese dam, capable of holding more water than Assam and Arunachal can ever consume. Indian concern isn't exactly about China stopping Brahmaputra's water, they can't stop 93% of Brahmaputara's water simply because it's from outside their territory. China can't control downstream flow or cause floods, India has even larger dams just downstream. As for the sediments, well, they are supposed to settle in Bengal delta (east Bengal) not in India. Any sediments would have got caught in the new Indian dams anyway.

Biggest benefactor of Brahmaputara is not India, it's Bangladesh. They are the only one who is going to get screwed at the end. With Chinese Dams holding 6-9 BCM of water and Indian Dams holding another 9 BCM of water, they gonna get get hit bad. The entire country is practically river delta and they gonna have a hard time.

 

[Dalit]

Except that the situation is not similar to Mekong River. Brahmaputra flow through only 2 Indian states,Assam and Arunachal Pradesh. 90% of Brahmaputara's water comes from territory outside Tibet. North Eastern India is one of the most wettest places on this planet and Arunachal and Assam receives more water than it can ever consume. May be you should learn a bit about geography and learn about Himalayan mountains and Indian monsoon. Unlike Thailand or Burma, India's Himalayan territories gets monsoon, upwards of 3,000 mm an year, which contributes to much of Himalayan glaciers and water for Himalayan rivers.

India already building it's largest dam few kms downstream of Chinese dam, capable of holding more water than Assam and Arunachal can ever consume. Indian concern isn't exactly about China stopping Brahmaputra's water, they can't stop 93% of Brahmaputara's water simply because it's from outside their territory. China can't control downstream flow or cause floods, India has even larger dams just downstream. As for the sediments, well, they are supposed to settle in Bengal delta (east Bengal) not in India. Any sediments would have got caught in the new Indian dams anyway.

Biggest benefactor of Brahmaputara is not India, it's Bangladesh. They are the only one who is going to get screwed at the end. With Chinese Dams holding 6-9 BCM of water and Indian Dams holding another 9 BCM of water, they gonna get get hit bad. The entire country is practically river delta and they gonna have a hard time.

BS. China controls the source.

 

[Rollno21]

Well, you got your reply in Kashmir. Also very cost effective.

You think you can spread terror in Pakistan and just walk away unharmed?

Terrorism started in Kashmir around 88-89 when Soviets left Afghanistan, Pakistan started it diverting the militants from Afghanistan.

If you see we have been losing lives but the numbers drastically came down and the exact reverse has happened in Pakistan. We are sure we might lose some lives in future too but will make sure Pakistan pays heavier price.

 

[gamaji]

because Pakistan has a history of supporting such armed people. Terrorists in Kashmir and India, if you don't know – read the history from 1989 properly from international sources.....

Now you don't need to cross borders for terrorism – just supply the weapons and use brainwashed people or facilitate with money – that's it,.....

Cross border terrorism? India has been decaled a terrorist state by Canada, not in distant past, because Indian terrorist officials were caught red-handed directly involved in terrorism there. Americans stayed short of declaring India a terrorist state but they chased an absconding Indian diplomat involved in terrorism in the US and nabbed him at a European airport as he landed there.

Pakistan has all the evidence of direct Indian terrorism in Pakistan, including an Indian terrorist naval commander, Kulbhushan Jadhav, and RAW's Assist. Director, terrorist Ashok Chaturvedi, who were running the whole terrorist networks in Pakistan.

India is a terrorist state - run by a sick-minded murderer, dubiously known as the butcher of Gujrat, Modi - that uses terrorism as a state policy. Killing 30 or 40 Indians in so many similar false flag operations is not a big deal for that criminal.

 

[Oscar]

Only having more of a voice doesn't work. Competency does, whic he is completely deprived of. And in terms of voice, what IK's voice we heard after Modi ended the special status of Indian Occupied J&K? Kia India se jang karoon

So what else was the option?
Not saying IKs response is was the best or not but without presenting a realistic option on what could have done, should have been done with the situation, capability and bargaining chips - do you have a better option to present other than realizing Pakistan basically lost the plot post Kargil?

I get the idea we have camps because afterall human beings prefer personal emotional camps rather then what makes the most sense as a collective - what would your emotional camps do which would be “better” for Pakistan?