Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Oscar]

Come on bro. Of course we are no match for the US, but I am just saying that the trajectory our development was going at induced worry in their ranks. But we do have tech that is unannounced and so does India. Never said America is ‘afraid’, just worried.

America is never worried about it - they just have a calculus to keep things where they are and if it deviates they “intervene”

 

[Oscar]

What made you think we are crying, we just want proper retaliation and the parties involved to pay higher price.

What if it turns out it was your own people - from a completely 1/1000 hypothetical chance. Will your statement stand?

 

[Dalit]

Come on bro. Of course we are no match for the US, but I am just saying that the trajectory our development was going at induced worry in their ranks. But we do have tech that is unannounced and so does India. Never said America is ‘afraid’, just worried.

Time has come to start testing a few missiles now. It has been very quiet for a long while. No better opportunity.

 

[gamaji]

Losing 2–3soldiers a day is treated like just another routine incident. Even if 10 are killed, it's barely discussed or debated. Only when the number crosses 20 -30 does it maybe get two days of limelight—even on forums like this.

But it’s the complete opposite on our side. From frequent terror attacks in the '90s to Maoist attacks in the 2000s, things have drastically changed. Such incidents are now extremely rare in the mainland.

Back in the early 2000s, it wasn’t unusual to open a newspaper and read “1 soldier killed in Kashmir.” Now, even a single casualty in Kashmir gets national attention.

Indian lives are now more valued. People here putting immense pressure on the government when lives are lost.

If we take Indian claims at the face value, isn't it utterly shameful for Indian military that four or five armed men came in 400 Km away from the LoC to a highly fortified location in Kashmir, killed 30 or so people, and then disappeared leaving 700,000 Indian soldiers clueless?

 

[LeGenD]

PAF is preparing for Rafale for many years, I bet they are ready for any adventure, if JF is shot down there won't be big issue in the world but if couple of Rafale is down, that will shame not only India but will bring negative marketing for French. But as modi said last time, Ager Rafale hota... well now they have them (36) so lets see what changes this time.

Well, jet fighters can be lost in a clash of peers but Indian forces are large enough to stretch Pakistani defenses in a wider conflict situation and create costs for Pakistan in the process. The establishment is fully aware of this possibility. I recall a video on PDF in which this matter was discussed by a retired military officer. Pakistan needs more than its own options to keep India at bay - several countries had a significant role in reducing tensions between Pakistan and India in 2019 and this is a need of the hour once again.

My concern is that times are changing as more countries look towards India favorably. In view of this trend, which countries Pakistan can leverage to talk sense into India? This is important consideration. There is a need for a lasting solution.

I am glad we can agree partially on this but this is not the thread to discuss Pakistan's politics.

Certainly. But I do wonder why you laugh at factual posts and legitimate concerns. I responded to the assumption in a post that India cannot fight a war. Is this correct? Some members on PDF extend this assumption to Israel and the US as well but all can see what is happening in the Middle East (not a laughing matter). Countries getting bombed and crippled and people dying in the process is not a laughing matter.

What message is India trying to communicate right now with this umbrella of 'sanctions' and 'actions'?

Military response not needed?

Bro, India blames Pakistan for instability in the IOK and has found yet another opportunity to undermine Pakistan. There is a history of tit for tat between both sides but I doubt that Pakistan benefits from the Pahalgam incident in these trying times. Musharraf tried his level best to sort out all problems between India and Pakistan but some in India are unreasonable and ignored his efforts. Our bad luck I suppose.

Pakistani forces are on high alert in the present.
I will provide an update to you if I learn more from a contact.

 

[gamaji]

Its cost effective. And effective

As if Indian state is not already using terrorism against Pakistan.

 

[Borderlands]

These are Hindutva facts and figures. Everyone knows that China controls the source. That is an undeniable fact.

Here are some geographical facts

1) Fiber is a high altitude desert with no rain (less than 400 mm per year)
2) Himalayan Indian states receive Indian monsoon of 3,000+ mm
3) Most of the Himalayan water comes from Indian monsoon. Caused by the hot Tibetan desert air lifting up, creating a low pressure zone which brings clouds from Indian Ocean. Upon reaching the Himalayas, mountains block the clouds, causing heavy rain in the southern slope of Himalayan mountain.

Monsoon of South Asia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

See those wind over Bengal, Assam and Arunachal, blocked by Himalayan mountains, changing direction to north west? Those are not Hindutva facts, just some geographical phenomenon.

 

[gamaji]

Pakistani and Pakistan is stuck in balakot
If this is your benchmark.. I will relive.

Not even Even 5% assets are used in this skirmish.. In a bigger game mnay thing will come into picture

After taking a sever beat and shooting own helicopter, those 5% assets ran away leaving the skies over Indian occupied J&K unguarded and the remaining 95% didn't even show up during the subsequent tense days.

You should indeed relive for another chance.

 

[Trailer23]

Pakistani and Pakistan is stuck in balakot

And yet to date (this present year), India is still trying to find ... something to cover the embaressment of Balakot.

Link: U.S. Satellites Could Tell if India's MiG-21 Really Shot Down a Pakistani F-16 But No Dice

For f#*k sake... You got your @$$ beat. Its been 6 Years. Just take it* & move on.

*Kinda like the boys on take it on P0rnHub .

@Mobius @Dalit @SaadH @Starlord

 

[Dalit]

Here are some geographical facts

1) Fiber is a high altitude desert with no rain (less than 400 mm per year)
2) Himalayan Indian states receive Indian monsoon of 3,000+ mm
3) Most of the Himalayan water comes from Indian monsoon. Caused by the hot Tibetan desert air lifting up, creating a low pressure zone which brings clouds from Indian Ocean. Upon reaching the Himalayas, mountains block the clouds, causing heavy rain in the southern slope of Himalayan mountain.

Monsoon of South Asia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

See those wind over Bengal, Assam and Arunachal, blocked by Himalayan mountains, changing direction to north west? Those are not Hindutva facts, just some geographical phenomenon.

Wrong. China controls the source.

 

[Hybrid]

Don’t you think you’re giving it way too much credit?
Being worried or losing sleep over it is a stretch.
I mean, sure—anyone would be concerned if there’s a madman with a gun, but that doesn’t mean we’re all up at night because of it.

My dude, things take time, it could be years, it could be decades

But you can't trap hundreds of millions of people and then leave them unrepresented and have your shitty society dream of rape and murder and vocalise it without consequences

Will Pakistan even survive till then? I mean, it's already been divided once, and we're talking about decades here. Who knows which Stan you'll belong to by then

 

[Borderlands]

Wrong. China controls the source.

Which only have negligible water

 

[Dalit]

Will Pakistan even survive till then? I mean, it's already been divided once, and we're talking about decades here. Who knows which Stan you'll belong to by then

Pakistan has always survived. You can keep dreaming though. Along with your Iranian and Afghoon friends.

 

[m52k85]

Talk about Irony, suspending Indus water treaty (source of 90% water in Pakistan) only vindicates Pakistan's stance that Kashmir is it's Jugular vein.

 

[Dalit]

Which only have negligible water

Did you learn that in your Hindutva teachings?