Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Maarkhoor said:
Pakistani Govt responded and only one thing i would like to mention that Pakistan closes air spaces which costs India 847 crore in a day.
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Let's see how much room is provided by the Parsi/Jain/Marwari tycoons to Modi to manuever.....
 
There is news floating around that PAF stuck Taliban in A-stan. Is this true??
 
Just finished watching a fascinating interview on an Indian channel of India's retired General Panag in the context of the Pahalgam attack. A few points:
  1. Indian Army was at its strongest in 2001/2 when India launched Operation Parakaram but India lost the 'window of opportunity which was in December 2001 till January 2022. When that opportunity was lost, Pakistan moved its assets from the western border where they were deployed as part of the post 9/11 events. [What the interview doesn't discuss is that how shamefully India did a the so-called 'Parliament Attack' False Flag to attack Pakistan because Pakistan was involved in the War Against Terrorism after 9/11: Indians: You have a LOVE for False Flags!!]
  2. India decided on 'Hot Pursuit'in 2016 but they were dud operations: The so-called 'Surgical Strikes'.
  3. Failure of Indian military to deter Pakistan either on land, or on air, or even via naval power.
  4. Pakistan, per the general, is getting qualitative advantages since 2016
  5. Pulwarna/Balakot was essential Indian failure.
  6. Indian political environment has become a prisoner of its own propaganda: 60% Indians believe they can take on both China and Pakistan in a two front war.
  7. General Panag has been attacked for his candid views.
  8. India really doesn't have much credible deterrence against Pakistan. What India can do to Pakistan, gets paid back in kind by Pakistan.

It is a fascinating interview where the General has been mostly objective except, despite saying what he said in the interview, in the last two minutes he maintains that India can still stop Pakistan's adventures in Kashmir 'once and for all' only if the political support is given to the Indian Prime Minister. I found that an odd statement after what he said in the interview-- maybe trying to save his own hide from the inevitable backlash. LOL!

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Meengla said:
Just finished watching a fascinating interview on an Indian channel of India's retired General Panag in the context of the Pahalgam attack. A few points:
  1. Indian Army was at its strongest in 2001/2 when India launched Operation Parakaram but India lost the 'window of opportunity which was in December 2001 till January 2022. When that opportunity was lost, Pakistan moved its assets from the western border where they were deployed as part of the post 9/11 events. [What the interview doesn't discuss is that how shamefully India did a the so-called 'Parliament Attack' False Flag to attack Pakistan because Pakistan was involved in the War Against Terrorism after 9/11: Indians: You have a LOVE for False Flags!!]
  2. India decided on 'Hot Pursuit'in 2016 but they were dud operations: The so-called 'Surgical Strikes'.
  3. Failure of Indian military to deter Pakistan either on land, or on air, or even via naval power.
  4. Pakistan, per the general, is getting qualitative advantages since 2016
  5. Pulwarna/Balakot was essential Indian failure.
  6. Indian political environment has become a prisoner of its own propaganda: 60% Indians believe they can take on both China and Pakistan in a two front war.
  7. General Panag has been attacked for his candid views.
  8. India really doesn't have much credible deterrence against Pakistan. What India can do to Pakistan, gets paid back in kind by Pakistan.

It is a fascinating interview where the General has been mostly objective except, despite saying what he said in the interview, in the last two minutes he maintains that India can still stop Pakistan's adventures in Kashmir 'once and for all' only if the political support is given to the Indian Prime Minister. I found that an odd statement after what he said in the interview-- maybe trying to save his own hide from the inevitable backlash. LOL!

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I was watching this as well, it definitely seems that India is massively overestimating their own capabilities or the effect that they would have on Pakistan.
The comments are also full of Indian denialists. It's interesting to see those who see through the chest thumping and bravado that India displays in its media about it being able to defeat Pakistan with its hands behind its back.
Realistically Pakistan is still a near peer, if not a peer opposition force and this isn't due to change any time soon.
 
Maarkhoor said:
Pakistani Govt responded and only one thing i would like to mention that Pakistan closes air spaces which costs India 847 crore in a day.
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Will effect eastbound PIA flights some too though its mostly Indian airlines going to the ME who will be hit.

Not a big deal, we'll do what El-Al does and not overfly enemy airspace.
 
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ARMalik said:
Now this is a very concerning news. I think there are Israelis in IoK !!

Pakistan Claims #India Is Harbouring Foreign Combatants In Srinagar

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Let's smoke the Israelis too. That should be a double win.
 
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This Swami guy would be the first to be enchained and paraded on the back of a military truck when we take over Dehli, I said it a few years ago too..

Yes we would take a beating but Hindu India would also cease to exist.
 
AlKardai said:
I was watching this as well, it definitely seems that India is massively overestimating their own capabilities or the effect that they would have on Pakistan.
The comments are also full of Indian denialists. It's interesting to see those who see through the chest thumping and bravado that India displays in its media about it being able to defeat Pakistan with its hands behind its back.
Realistically Pakistan is still a near peer, if not a peer opposition force and this isn't due to change any time soon.
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I didn't read the comments to that video. But I was almost shocked as to how many Indians (and supposedly Imran Khan supporters) in today's Geo News and Express News Pakistani channels were putting dominant / liked anti Pakistan comments.
This is definitely a pattern where Indians have joined the Imran Khan supporters in large numbers to target the very state of Pakistan by trying to discredit and destroy the Pakistani Army. I have been noticing that in increased numbers in last 2-3 years. Both sides have the same targets but different goals!!!
Fellow Pakistanis: Beware of your Nadaan Dosts and Dana Dushmans!!
 
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