Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Pradotlc]

This is where pti peeps are just depressing

A bit of introspection and admission to course correct for a young party is not a sign of weakness, it's maturity

You might have the right message, the right ideas, and leader but if you think in 4 yearz you can overturn the last 70 years establishment you set yourselves as revolutionaries.... not a political party working on the art of the possibile


And then that's the other point, if you are a political party not a revolution do you care more for your party or ik? If all your chips are ik then you end one day with ik, no idol to look up ..... idol. if you think ik is flawless, bahh

The relevance to this thread is the lack of political and mental maturity is leaving pti guys as angry marginal bitter revolutionaries who think right now getting rid of the army is "the rooout cohze"


This is either subversive or stupidity

You guys actually sound like you want to replace the army stranglehold with your own!

None the less, PTI still have a relevant message, ik is still there, and it really depends if PTI the collective have the impulse control and common vision for a 10 year vision

Can’t blame PTI’s hate

Munir ‘s oppression has been on the level of the Hindu army in Kashmir..

Very Pakistanis turned infront of the Pakistan embassy in London.. v anti nawaz protests

 

[Pradotlc]

There's plenty, including dissenting voices.. foreigners/angrej types but, we need to keep an eye on.

No much different from anywhere else, I imagine.

Read the international press for a change

 

[LHA4210]

An aircraft took of from India (possibly Delhi) and been flying close to the border. Cruise altitude 28,000ft.

 

[Pradotlc]

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[Pradotlc]

Deep down india knows any violent action could result in the unintended consequences of downfall of the Asim junta and return of Khan … more importantly civil rule in Pakistan

A Pakistan government under the rule of law is a complete nightmare for India.. ie its entire properganda will fail

Right now the Junta in Pakistan is the perfect bad guy. Globally recognized as a supporter of terrorism, rigs elections, has a massive human rights record , conducts censorship, murders opposition, threatens judges etc

The Indian gov loves this gov. It fits their narrative perfectly

 

[Prognostications]

Indian Liberals especially the Aman Ki Asha Cabal have finally given up hope

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[Liquidator]

An aircraft took of from India (possibly Delhi) and been flying close to the border. Cruise altitude 28,000ft.

Notice how it stays well within the border.

Swift retort really taught them a lesson. You see, they are snookered. No surprise possible.

Prior, excursions into Pakistani airspace was common?Now, with shoot to kill policy, the IAF must FULLY COMMIT. No small scale misadventures possible...

I hope pak military has its SRBMs ready to pound IAF bases if it kicks off.

 

[Meengla]

So this is confusing, they really think the power dynamic between India vs Pakistan is the same as Israel vs Gaza? LMAO

Fact is that Pakistan acquired about 1/3rd of the Jammu and Kashmir in a war in 1948/49 and still hold that territory, which is a large chunk of beautiful and strategic land connecting China and Pakistan and denying India the access to Central Asia. If India could, it would have taken that land back from Pakistan. 1949!!

 

[mythbuster]

This is where pti peeps are just depressing

A bit of introspection and admission to course correct for a young party is not a sign of weakness, it's maturity

You might have the right message, the right ideas, and leader but if you think in 4 yearz you can overturn the last 70 years establishment you set yourselves as revolutionaries.... not a political party working on the art of the possibile


And then that's the other point, if you are a political party not a revolution do you care more for your party or ik? If all your chips are ik then you end one day with ik, no idol to look up ..... idol. if you think ik is flawless, bahh

The relevance to this thread is the lack of political and mental maturity is leaving pti guys as angry marginal bitter revolutionaries who think right now getting rid of the army is "the rooout cohze"


This is either subversive or stupidity

You guys actually sound like you want to replace the army stranglehold with your own!

None the less, PTI still have a relevant message, ik is still there, and it really depends if PTI the collective have the impulse control and common vision for a 10 year vision

I don't see much difference between PTI supporters and idol worshippers.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Read the international press for a change

Its just not a big enough issue for the world rn, much as Pak would like it to be.. sorry.

nobody coming to anyone's rescue.. this proper mano e mano.. pajeit vs momin, but not the main event lol

 

[r3alist]

There is nothing unethical about Pakistan taking at least the Muslim majority areas of Indian Occupied Kashmir especially when senior members of Modi's cabinet are boasting that 'we will not let even one drop of water to go to Pakistan'. The Kashmiris are more alienated than ever before they will help now unlike in 1965.

And if you study the map, taking and holding onto Indian Occupied Kashmir is do-able. I didn't mention Indian Punjab or Rajasthan or even the disputed part of Rann of Kutch.
Taking land was done in 1948/49. China also took some land. India also took Siachen Glacier's parts. All that land has changed hands since the Partition. Israel has just taken more land. Russia has just taken land.

A massive invading force can do that and Pakistan has tens of millions ready to fight; huge population can be of benefit. Hah. The tribals of Pakistan are ferocious warriors and they are now better armed then ever before. I don't see how a front line of hundreds miles onto LOC can't be formed and do massive intrusion and choke off the narrow supply lines from India into IOK.

Look: Pakistan will have to do something now or later. Maybe India will provide the real causus belli now or later but next time Pakistan shouldn't stop and finish it once and for all. Otherwise, India, where it is going, is certainly going to use water as a weapon of war: Did you notice in that Karan Thapar interview someone posted today a few pages above? Karan and his guest were sensible people but the guest was honest enough to admit that 'India has always viewed water as weapon' against Pakistan.

Big topic, I don't have a strong view, about 1% chance of it happening with current establishment
The tribal situation has significantly changed, it's not 47. Nukes, vastly different resources, all that

Capture one thing, holding on to it.....it would be like Ukraine holding a chunk of Russian territory, who wins long term

The problem of water is really a regional, global warming, infrastructure and population issue

I need to read more into the topic but Pakistan could probably help itself with infrastructure and better planning ....

Infrastructure, planning and execution really helps every problem and threat

 

[FuturePAF]

Can someone tell that idiot - before working on editing work or post something - do research

There is no Mig 30 , it's su 30 mki....

A lots of keyboard bords warriors busy nowdays for wasting time on meme.... I guess, from Nepal also can do it, and even win the war against USA, if they are free on any day by memes only and become super power

You see the caliber of politicians we have and why we want to replace them. At least we know they are all tweeting their own tweets, and violating their own laws.

Like Nepal, I’m on here saying both nations will cripple each other during our demographic dividends, when an independent Kashmir would be interest of both nations, especially India, where economics would dominate the power dynamics instead of identity. Denver Jinnah never thought the borders would be “hard borders”.

China doesn’t need to physically occupy Japan or Korea to have an outsized influence. Economics and quiet borders does more than what a state of instability causes.

India is forcing Pakistan to dedicate itself to containing India.

 

[Path-Finder]

This is where pti peeps are just depressing

A bit of introspection and admission to course correct for a young party is not a sign of weakness, it's maturity

You might have the right message, the right ideas, and leader but if you think in 4 yearz you can overturn the last 70 years establishment you set yourselves as revolutionaries.... not a political party working on the art of the possibile


And then that's the other point, if you are a political party not a revolution do you care more for your party or ik? If all your chips are ik then you end one day with ik, no idol to look up ..... idol. if you think ik is flawless, bahh

The relevance to this thread is the lack of political and mental maturity is leaving pti guys as angry marginal bitter revolutionaries who think right now getting rid of the army is "the rooout cohze"


This is either subversive or stupidity

You guys actually sound like you want to replace the army stranglehold with your own!

None the less, PTI still have a relevant message, ik is still there, and it really depends if PTI the collective have the impulse control and common vision for a 10 year vision

name me one country where Pakistani type model has succeeded?


I used to have arguments with my school mates who were Bengali about 1971.
Today the majority are of the view that a band master led country can never achieve anything. already lost East Pakistan. The remaining bit of Pakistan is being put on then same course.

Until people and their wishes are respected, and the self appointed pharaohs come under civil control, Pakistan is done for. the band master will not live in Pakistan, band master will run away and live abroad. but not all Pakistanis can settle abroad.

 

[r3alist]

I don't see much difference between PTI supporters and idol worshippers.

Can't lie, I been an ik fan for sure
Still am, he is who he is, we know who he is
He needs wiser heads around him

 

[Meengla]

Fired missile will add kinetic energy to the tractor and it will plow field at much faster speed.

Couldn't resist having a big laugh! Such a win-win scenario: Kill your enemy and plow the field at the same time.
PS. But seriously, I have been thinking about a new tiller for last few years to plow some land on my property: The 220 CC died and the 25 CC is too low power.