Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Goenitz]

Yes, the Arabic language channels as many I have seen in last few days are decisively pro Pakistan. The Two-Faced Indian 'support' to Palestinians was even more exposed to the Palestinians and the world during the last 18 months of the Israel-Gaza war.
Related to this: Pakistanis need to align with the newly formed large blogspace which is very vocal and does smart messaging about the Israel-Gaza conflict; they are Pakistan's allies and many of them know India's role in that conflict.

Pakistan should take a post-active role in this situation and strategically capitalise on India’s PR blunders that disconnected and perhaps angered Arab public.

 

[Baadil]

Guys you reckon anything is going to happen tonight?

My brother, pray Isha salah, Witr, make duah for the Ummah, and sleep

 

[maverick]

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israel entering Gaza was redline for turks too, Erdogan his cabinet are all talk no action

 

[r3alist]

israel entering Gaza was redline for turks too, Erdogan his cabinet are all talk no action

Not the topic here

Pak turkey cooperation is real

 

[Cesur]

Pakistan needs to take advantage of this situation. We need to go on the front foot in Kashmir, encourage more militant attacks, especially on Indian forces.

However we need to strike a deal with the Chinese. If any full scale conflict happens - fund us and continue to arm us. Fight India to the last Pakistani.

It's in the interests of everyone to never have a full scale war, but it's in the interests of the Chinese to win a war against India without firing a single bullet.

All we need is oil/gas and weapons. Pretty much self sufficient in the rest. Maybe pharma supplies too.

Much like how the West tried to use Ukraine against Russia.

Pakistan should indeed take this as an opportunity to take Kashmir and take control of the rivers to avert water crisis before it becomes too late. India is weak militarily and badly exposed. The Chinese have been openly arming Pakistan. They are with us. Even if we have to take loans from them to run this war do it. Its for our future.

 

[Goenitz]

israel entering Gaza was redline for turks too, Erdogan his cabinet are all talk no action

Turkey may do that for the US and being part of NATO etc. India is not the sweet boy for the US.
Anyway, Pak must balance between Erdugan and the Turkish public as he is getting 'unpopular' due to his actions..

 

[r3alist]

An interesting discussion Rabia akhtar

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[Rollno21]

Evidence of what? India has been openly discussing the possibility of nullifying the Indus Waters Treaty for at least five years. They have repeatedly shown interest in gaining control over the water resources of rivers that flow into Pakistan.

Pakistan’s per capita water availability has already declined from 5.2 litres in 1962 to just 1.2 litres in 2018. Several documentaries… many produced by Indian channels have highlighted this alarming trend, warning that a future conflict between Pakistan and India will happen because of water scarcity. Even if India takes no action, one report suggests that Pakistan’s per capita water availability could drop further to 0.8litres. Something needs to be done about it or else we will be facing the same water crisis in 5 years if not today

Pakistan Water Use, Resources and Precipitation - Worldometer

Water used by sector in Pakistan: Agriculture, Industry, and Municipal; Water precipiation in depth and total volume; Water Dependency Ratio; Renewable Water Resources in total and per capita; People with no access to a safe drinking water source

www.worldometers.info

It not India's fault the per capita water availability reduced for Pakistan.in 1962 Pakistani population was around 4.8 crores and in 2018 it more than 22 crores. If any war has to be fought it has to be to control population.

Even today Pakistan doesn't manage water well and let's huge portion of water it receives into the sea.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Rafale is neither utopia nor panacea vis-a-vis the PAF, as per a former PAF AVM.....

A Bharati Colonel has sexually assaulted an Israili female sergeant, as per a complaint from the Israili embassy in Delhi....

*A novice civilian like me has been saying it all along: Rafales' GaAs based AESA/EW/EA/Meteor etc. is 10X less efficient than J-10Cs' and JF-17 B3's GaN based AESA/EW/EA/PL-15. The Turkish engineers have been dissecting Rafales' like the med students do on dead bodies, thanks to the Qatar AF's Rafales stationed in Turkey.

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[Mr X]

It not India's fault the per capita water availability reduced for Pakistan.in 1962 Pakistani population was around 4.8 crores and in 2018 it more than 22 crores. If any war has to be fought it has to be to control population.

Even today Pakistan doesn't manage water well and let's huge portion of water it receives into the sea.

It’s true that Pakistan failed to fully utilise its water resources and did not invest in constructing large dams. However, aside from the growing populations in both countries, India’s construction of dams in Kashmir and Punjab is also contributing to the reduced flow of water into Pakistan.

When I was younger, I remember the Chenab River carrying a healthy volume of water, but now I can’t recall the last time I saw even three litres flowing through it. The riverbed has become so dry that cows now sleep in it. It has effectively turned into a resting ground rather than a river.

 

[Goenitz]

It’s true that Pakistan failed to fully utilise its water resources and did not invest in constructing large dams. However, aside from the growing populations in both countries, India’s construction of dams in Kashmir and Punjab is also contributing to the reduced flow of water into Pakistan.

When I was younger, I remember the Chenab River carrying a healthy volume of water, but now I can’t recall the last time I saw even three litres flowing through it. The riverbed has become so dry that cows now sleep in it. It has effectively turned into a resting ground rather than a river.

I have seen water in the Sutlej in 1995/96/97 etc on many occasions. It can't be a flood season all the time. I saw Chenab full on 2 occasions in 2006/7. Never later like in 2023.

 

[Developereo]

LOL, India will have to fuel their warplanes with non-Iranian oil.
Oh dear!

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A friend in need is a friend indeed.
Um....

 

[Prince_]

Nothing is going to happen. Indians aren't fools. Even though India is overall stronger than Pakistan in terms of military might, Pakistan isn't a pushover either and could cause irreparable damage to India.

Both countries have largely built their armies with a focus on defense, so any attacker would place themselves in a much more disadvantageous position.

Furthermore, it would be a PR disaster for India, as it hasn't yet provided concrete proof that Pakistan was actually behind the attack. Pakistan has even agreed to cooperate with an independent investigation, which I believe is quite commendable.

If India truly wants to bleed Pakistan, it should do so through other means, such as applying economic pressure or something along those lines.

 

[codeforfood]

Evidence of what? India has been openly discussing the possibility of nullifying the Indus Waters Treaty for at least five years. They have repeatedly shown interest in gaining control over the water resources of rivers that flow into Pakistan.

Pakistan’s per capita water availability has already declined from 5.2 litres in 1962 to just 1.2 litres in 2018. Several documentaries… many produced by Indian channels have highlighted this alarming trend, warning that a future conflict between Pakistan and India will happen because of water scarcity. Even if India takes no action, one report suggests that Pakistan’s per capita water availability could drop further to 0.8litres. Something needs to be done about it or else we will be facing the same water crisis in 5 years if not today

Pakistan Water Use, Resources and Precipitation - Worldometer

Water used by sector in Pakistan: Agriculture, Industry, and Municipal; Water precipiation in depth and total volume; Water Dependency Ratio; Renewable Water Resources in total and per capita; People with no access to a safe drinking water source

www.worldometers.info

It seems you are forgetting the fact that our population has increased many folds. It would be wise for us to contain ourselves so that scarcity of resources is not amplified.

 

[Mr X]

It seems you are forgetting the fact that our population has increased many folds. It would be wise for us to contain ourselves so that scarcity of resources is not amplified.

The entire South Asia needs to control population as it is dilemma for all south Asian counties with India in worst situation followed by Pakistan