Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Master Chief said:
I personally would slightly modify your otherwise excellent post.

Pakistan has no designs against hindus or hinduism whatsoever. Not even our ultra-religious parties wish to harm hinduism. This default mentality is not by accident, rather it is the crux of the philosophy of Pakistan. Jinnah did not found us as an Islamic state, but rather as a safe haven for Muslims, safe from the incorrigible nature of the unchecked Indian hindutva cadres, safe from Golwalkar's fantasies being lived out day after day in some "Akhand Bharat" type fantasy. You may verify this through Jinnah's own words and actions.

RSS would certainly define this as "hindu vs muslim", as everything from Aurangzeb mentioned in the history syllabus to rooh-afza is supposedly a "jihad" against their perpetual victimhood.

For us, it has become defined as the very concept of Pakistan against the nefarious scheming of the terminally obsessed hindutva state.

We shall endure.
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You're right. For Pakistanis and most Muslims Hinduism is a non-issue. What they worship is for them to decide. However, India and Hindu lives seem to revolve around Islamophobia. They elect the most violent anti-Muslim politicians, like Modi, the Butcher of Gujarat. Every time there are elections the campaign against Indian Muslims and Pakistan goes up. So, it's mostly a one-way hate fest.
 

India asks IMF to review loans to Pakistan, Indian government source says​

NEW DELHI/KARACHI, May 2 (Reuters) - India has asked the International Monetary Fund to review loans disbursed to Pakistan, an Indian government source told Reuters on Friday, as tensions between the South Asian neighbours escalated following a deadly attack in Kashmir.

India and Pakistan have announced a raft of measures after an attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last week killed 26 men and there is a fear that the latest crisis between the nuclear-armed rivals could spiral into a military conflict.

New Delhi has identified the three attackers, including two it says are Pakistani nationals, as "terrorists". Islamabad has denied any role and called for a neutral investigation.

India suspended a critical river water sharing treaty and the two countries have closed their airspace to each other's airlines.
Pakistan secured a $7 billion bailout programme from the IMF last year and was granted a new $1.3 billionclimate resilience loan in March.
The programme is critical to the $350 billion economy and Pakistan said it has stabilized under the bailout that helped it stave off a default threat.
India raised concerns with the IMF on its loans to Pakistan, asking for a review, a government source told Reuters without elaborating.

The IMF and India's finance ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The advisor to Pakistan's finance minister said the IMF programme is "well on track".

"The latest review has been done well and we are completely on track," advisor Khurram Schehzad, told Reuters, adding that Pakistan had very productive spring meetings with financial institutions in Washington.

"We did about 70 meetings ... interest has been very high for investing and supporting Pakistan as the economy turns around," Schehzad said.
The soaring tensions between the two countries has drawn global attention and calls for cooling tempers.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Thursday that Washington hoped Pakistan would cooperate with India to hunt down Pakistan-based assailants.Muslim-majority Kashmir is claimed in full by both Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan, but each rules it in parts.

While New Delhi accuses Pakistan of backing an uprising in Indian Kashmir since 1989, Pakistan says it only offers diplomatic and moral support to a Kashmiri demand for self-determination.

 
M. Sarmad said:
پاک بھارت جنگ کی یہ موسمی ڈرامہ بازی دراصل دونوں طرف کے نااہل حکمرانوں کا آزمودہ نسخہ ہے — جیسے ہی عوام سوال پوچھنے لگیں، بارڈر پہ دھواں چھوڑ دو، جنگی نعرے لگا دو، اور سب کچھ 'قومی سلامتی' کے پیچھے چھپا دو
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I had to use google translates but sounds like what I wrote

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Post in thread 'Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates'

Could we have this kind of take going ?

The Pakistan military establishment is playing with the sentiments of its citizens by playing army songs and singing and dancing victory parades against India

Good well done , but with an army of 1.4 million men and over 300 nuclear warheads capable to be delivered by land , sea and air we didn’t even get a peep out of these generals for helping Gaza and Palestine

And Western nations pride themselves on air superiority it’s not like Pakistan does not have an Air Force , they have a very capable air force which can reach far beyond Pakistans...
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What I find kind of ironic is the chagrin taken on the Indian side after the army chief's speech at the Overseas Pakistanis convention. They were doing hai, hai about the CoAS calling out the distinction between Muslims and Hindus as being two different nations.

In reality, it is the Indian RSS/BJP masses (each election proves the Indian citizenry is increasingly turning more fundamentalist) that have championed the "otherization" of Muslims in India as a distinctly different people from the majority. They have spared no opportunity to spew vitriolic propaganda to make sure Muslims in India are seen as others. This 15 year long overt effort, and covertly prior, has seen Muslims being ostracized, marginalized, with names of Muslim era landmarks being changed, Muslims being harassed, hounded and their Mosques and homes destroyed etc.
 
Cesur said:

India asks IMF to review loans to Pakistan, Indian government source says​

NEW DELHI/KARACHI, May 2 (Reuters) - India has asked the International Monetary Fund to review loans disbursed to Pakistan, an Indian government source told Reuters on Friday, as tensions between the South Asian neighbours escalated following a deadly attack in Kashmir.

India and Pakistan have announced a raft of measures after an attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last week killed 26 men and there is a fear that the latest crisis between the nuclear-armed rivals could spiral into a military conflict.

New Delhi has identified the three attackers, including two it says are Pakistani nationals, as "terrorists". Islamabad has denied any role and called for a neutral investigation.

India suspended a critical river water sharing treaty and the two countries have closed their airspace to each other's airlines.
Pakistan secured a $7 billion bailout programme from the IMF last year and was granted a new $1.3 billionclimate resilience loan in March.
The programme is critical to the $350 billion economy and Pakistan said it has stabilized under the bailout that helped it stave off a default threat.
India raised concerns with the IMF on its loans to Pakistan, asking for a review, a government source told Reuters without elaborating.

The IMF and India's finance ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The advisor to Pakistan's finance minister said the IMF programme is "well on track".

"The latest review has been done well and we are completely on track," advisor Khurram Schehzad, told Reuters, adding that Pakistan had very productive spring meetings with financial institutions in Washington.

"We did about 70 meetings ... interest has been very high for investing and supporting Pakistan as the economy turns around," Schehzad said.
The soaring tensions between the two countries has drawn global attention and calls for cooling tempers.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Thursday that Washington hoped Pakistan would cooperate with India to hunt down Pakistan-based assailants.Muslim-majority Kashmir is claimed in full by both Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan, but each rules it in parts.

While New Delhi accuses Pakistan of backing an uprising in Indian Kashmir since 1989, Pakistan says it only offers diplomatic and moral support to a Kashmiri demand for self-determination.

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:-)
Overreach.
 
Cesur said:

India asks IMF to review loans to Pakistan, Indian government source says​

NEW DELHI/KARACHI, May 2 (Reuters) - India has asked the International Monetary Fund to review loans disbursed to Pakistan, an Indian government source told Reuters on Friday, as tensions between the South Asian neighbours escalated following a deadly attack in Kashmir.

India and Pakistan have announced a raft of measures after an attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last week killed 26 men and there is a fear that the latest crisis between the nuclear-armed rivals could spiral into a military conflict.

New Delhi has identified the three attackers, including two it says are Pakistani nationals, as "terrorists". Islamabad has denied any role and called for a neutral investigation.

India suspended a critical river water sharing treaty and the two countries have closed their airspace to each other's airlines.
Pakistan secured a $7 billion bailout programme from the IMF last year and was granted a new $1.3 billionclimate resilience loan in March.
The programme is critical to the $350 billion economy and Pakistan said it has stabilized under the bailout that helped it stave off a default threat.
India raised concerns with the IMF on its loans to Pakistan, asking for a review, a government source told Reuters without elaborating.

The IMF and India's finance ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The advisor to Pakistan's finance minister said the IMF programme is "well on track".

"The latest review has been done well and we are completely on track," advisor Khurram Schehzad, told Reuters, adding that Pakistan had very productive spring meetings with financial institutions in Washington.

"We did about 70 meetings ... interest has been very high for investing and supporting Pakistan as the economy turns around," Schehzad said.
The soaring tensions between the two countries has drawn global attention and calls for cooling tempers.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Thursday that Washington hoped Pakistan would cooperate with India to hunt down Pakistan-based assailants.Muslim-majority Kashmir is claimed in full by both Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan, but each rules it in parts.

While New Delhi accuses Pakistan of backing an uprising in Indian Kashmir since 1989, Pakistan says it only offers diplomatic and moral support to a Kashmiri demand for self-determination.

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Didn't we just have a review and all was fine? Just seems like them trying to claw at whatever they can
 
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Surely not another cabinet meeting!? That is 3 in last 5 days. 56 inch chest is not holding back
 
Tamerlane said:
You're right. For Pakistanis and most Muslims Hinduism is a non-issue. What they worship is for them to decide. However, India and Hindu lives seem to revolve around Islamophobia. They elect the most violent anti-Muslim politicians, like Modi, the Butcher of Gujarat. Every time there are elections the campaign against Indian Muslims and Pakistan goes up. So, it's mostly a one-way hate fest.
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Because the Pakistani minorities are just 4%. They are insignificant and thus our political landscape largely ignores them. The white part of our flag should honestly be much thinner.

On the other hand, there is a sizeable Muslim population in India. Not only that, it is multiplying faster than the Hindus in their own country. I think they fear a future where the Muslim 'minority' of India reaches 35-40% of their total population. Hence the paranoia and things like accusations of 'love jihad'.
 
Sharma Ji said:
Really ?

or were they doing hai-hai because overseas Pakistanis are overwhelmingly pro IK and don't like the guy. 🥃 ?
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It could have been IK or anyone else in the Pakistani government saying the same. Does not change the situation on the ground in India.
 
India’s strategic aims are out in the open. They want to suffocate Pakistan’s economy and throw our stability into disarray. From sabotaging CPEC and backing militant outfits like the TTP and BLA, to lobbying the IMF against us and menacing the Indus Water Treaty, their intentions couldn’t be clearer. Now is the time for Pakistan to retaliate. Step up efforts to undercut Indian diplomacy and, if necessary, reclaim Kashmir. With the U.S. preoccupied elsewhere, we can’t count on it to come to India’s defense.
 
Cesur said:

India asks IMF to review loans to Pakistan, Indian government source says​

NEW DELHI/KARACHI, May 2 (Reuters) - India has asked the International Monetary Fund to review loans disbursed to Pakistan, an Indian government source told Reuters on Friday, as tensions between the South Asian neighbours escalated following a deadly attack in Kashmir.

India and Pakistan have announced a raft of measures after an attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last week killed 26 men and there is a fear that the latest crisis between the nuclear-armed rivals could spiral into a military conflict.

New Delhi has identified the three attackers, including two it says are Pakistani nationals, as "terrorists". Islamabad has denied any role and called for a neutral investigation.

India suspended a critical river water sharing treaty and the two countries have closed their airspace to each other's airlines.
Pakistan secured a $7 billion bailout programme from the IMF last year and was granted a new $1.3 billionclimate resilience loan in March.
The programme is critical to the $350 billion economy and Pakistan said it has stabilized under the bailout that helped it stave off a default threat.
India raised concerns with the IMF on its loans to Pakistan, asking for a review, a government source told Reuters without elaborating.

The IMF and India's finance ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The advisor to Pakistan's finance minister said the IMF programme is "well on track".

"The latest review has been done well and we are completely on track," advisor Khurram Schehzad, told Reuters, adding that Pakistan had very productive spring meetings with financial institutions in Washington.

"We did about 70 meetings ... interest has been very high for investing and supporting Pakistan as the economy turns around," Schehzad said.
The soaring tensions between the two countries has drawn global attention and calls for cooling tempers.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Thursday that Washington hoped Pakistan would cooperate with India to hunt down Pakistan-based assailants.Muslim-majority Kashmir is claimed in full by both Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan, but each rules it in parts.

While New Delhi accuses Pakistan of backing an uprising in Indian Kashmir since 1989, Pakistan says it only offers diplomatic and moral support to a Kashmiri demand for self-determination.

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That is pretty desperate from India.
 
Cesur said:

India asks IMF to review loans to Pakistan, Indian government source says​

NEW DELHI/KARACHI, May 2 (Reuters) - India has asked the International Monetary Fund to review loans disbursed to Pakistan, an Indian government source told Reuters on Friday, as tensions between the South Asian neighbours escalated following a deadly attack in Kashmir.

India and Pakistan have announced a raft of measures after an attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last week killed 26 men and there is a fear that the latest crisis between the nuclear-armed rivals could spiral into a military conflict.

New Delhi has identified the three attackers, including two it says are Pakistani nationals, as "terrorists". Islamabad has denied any role and called for a neutral investigation.

India suspended a critical river water sharing treaty and the two countries have closed their airspace to each other's airlines.
Pakistan secured a $7 billion bailout programme from the IMF last year and was granted a new $1.3 billionclimate resilience loan in March.
The programme is critical to the $350 billion economy and Pakistan said it has stabilized under the bailout that helped it stave off a default threat.
India raised concerns with the IMF on its loans to Pakistan, asking for a review, a government source told Reuters without elaborating.

The IMF and India's finance ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The advisor to Pakistan's finance minister said the IMF programme is "well on track".

"The latest review has been done well and we are completely on track," advisor Khurram Schehzad, told Reuters, adding that Pakistan had very productive spring meetings with financial institutions in Washington.

"We did about 70 meetings ... interest has been very high for investing and supporting Pakistan as the economy turns around," Schehzad said.
The soaring tensions between the two countries has drawn global attention and calls for cooling tempers.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Thursday that Washington hoped Pakistan would cooperate with India to hunt down Pakistan-based assailants.Muslim-majority Kashmir is claimed in full by both Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan, but each rules it in parts.

While New Delhi accuses Pakistan of backing an uprising in Indian Kashmir since 1989, Pakistan says it only offers diplomatic and moral support to a Kashmiri demand for self-determination.

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This is good news for two reasons

1) Indians now desperate, war off the table so they are going for diplomatic/economic means but they do not have the clout of China/US
2) Pak just had its first fiscal surplus in 25 years, IMF deal is done and we actually do not need it anymore

Indians are now f**ked.....
 
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