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جوبا said:
I would agree with you as all private markets are fixed but the point I am trying to make is that this is the international bond market with a govt. issue, there are no balance sheets to befuddle or play with your P&L-either the country pays or they go the Argentina route.
I would prefer the Argentinian way if the government had balls
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interest rates determination for L/C, bec, these issues determine the first price/spread to be determined by any bank or importer (risk aversion and factor premiums)

Further, given our borrowings position (which are not based on shortfalls but are rather 'deficits') even a reduction in borrowings will lead to more volatile interest rates and short term prices!

this is relevant bec, issuer on our side, knows how to tweak all rates (short term rates and inflation rates!)
 
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Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
biggest inflows since '24?!!!

what am i missing?

where there any actual inflows in 2024, to lift the economic gloom?

no, then, whats this news is about!


this news is about padding up affairs of banker friends and family of Khurram Shehzad

this is insider trading!

I will sack him and start criminal investig. right way!
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yes the inflows was so massive that they had beg UAE to roll over their loans...

this a guy is a complete patwari... less brains than a indian dodo
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
biggest inflows since '24?!!!

what am i missing?

where there any actual inflows in 2024, to lift the economic gloom?

no, then, whats this news is about!


this news is about padding up affairs of banker friends and family of Khurram Shehzad

this is insider trading!

I will sack him and start criminal investig. right way!
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Feel good post
 
Fatman17 said:
Feel good post
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what do you expect!

I tried my bit, and, to this day, i try to talk sense into people

thats all i can do, Im not a industrialist or a financial inst. owner

only a salaried class, living nearly on wage to wage

Im not a clan leader or civil servant, Im doing my job, identifying whats wrong!

in our soceity, even educated people cant tell the difference between debt and a favor!

there is a famous book called, "5,000 year old debt", it is one of the top sellers. Do you know what, human history is hardly 10,000 years old. We have not made something as durable as 'debt'!

we are illiterate in financial sense, like 99% of us

I consider myself, illiterate and to this day, try to write and learn something new, I read almost 3 to 4 hours and on some days write as much, only to identify how magic spell is cast in finance!
 
جوبا said:
I would agree with you as all private markets are fixed but the point I am trying to make is that this is the international bond market with a govt. issue, there are no balance sheets to befuddle or play with your P&L-either the country pays or they go the Argentina route.
I would prefer the Argentinian way if the government had balls
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your argument is insider trading is not possible, bec. debt was floated in markets outside pak.

okay!

can you explain these equations in 2 lines, if you cant, then please dont argue over insider trading, bec, you know nothing about finance!



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Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
your argument is insider trading is not possible, bec. debt was floated in markets outside pak.

okay!

can you explain these equations in 2 lines, if you cant, then please dont argue over insider trading, bec, you know nothing about finance!



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bruh
since when is the pakistani goverment a listed corporation? what ROE formulas from watching wolf of wall street are you using
 
جوبا said:
bruh
since when is the pakistani goverment a listed corporation? what ROE formulas from watching wolf of wall street are you using
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sir, who says all the insider dealing involves fraud of listed co. and ETFs or mutual funds?!

may I ask, have you heard about 7 frictions which causes financial crisis in 2008?

none of the causes of the frictions mentioned listed co. (as keep you mentioning) rather, it was the insider dealing between warehouse and dealer banks, which kept sub prime loans on their balance sheets (which later turn out to be toxic, but were initially considered investment grade!)

here, insider dealing mentioned a fraud, not as a share or mutual fund trading!

can i ask you, why do you assume, if im saying insider trading, then, it is shares or mutual funds trading?!!

equations I have shown, are the very basic of finance, as I understand (and as the world of finance understand!)
(seems are unaware of about basics of financial concepts!)
lastly, who says, insider trading is only always shares trading?!!!
 
جوبا said:
bruh
since when is the pakistani goverment a listed corporation? what ROE formulas from watching wolf of wall street are you using
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from your perspective, since you have argued, insider dealing is only due to shares and ETFs and mutual funds!

could you determine how volatility is worked out by these two rations, which are issued as part of financial statement of every financial instution!

lets see! you know insider trading, but, how much!

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Yea you are totally right I am wrong I will leave quietly and go short shares of Pakistan government.
 
جوبا said:
Yea you are totally right I am wrong I will leave quietly and go short shares of Pakistan government.
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sir, if one controls leverage, question of shorting would'nt arise!

your argument lacks basic financial sense!

sorry!

do you even know what leverage is?!
 
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