Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Feroze]

I’d be happy if our social indicators were close to Iran or the Philippines.

Trump said out loud what Israel wants - turn Iran into a failed State with various factions warring amongst each other, like Somalia, Syria, Libya and Yemen.

For those of you who are antagonistic to Iran (out of sectarian reasons or just pure sympathy with the GCC states), please try to comprehend the disastrous impact on Pakistan if Iran turns into a failed State of 90 million plus.

We can’t even handle Afghanistan and will continue to deal with the fallout there for decades.

Haha! I guess you are right. Like Iran or Malaysia.

But China, Korea, and Japan are good role models as well. Including Taiwan.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

I quoted that guy who viciously attacked Pakistan as a 'vassal' nation despite all the evidence to the contrary. Not only was that off topic, insulting but also a lie; he and some other non Pakistanis, misinformed by the likes of certain Pakistanis often bring up the great 'Khan' as Pakistan's savior, as that guy did in his quoted post.
This is a Pakistani forum and for Pakistanis to stand idle when their nation is falsely labeled as 'vassal' is an insult.
But back to the topic.

I see no evidence to the contrary.

The Army sold out a sitting Prime Minister because the US/Israel didn’t like the fact that he couldn’t be controlled by them and would likely not have silently stood by when the Israelis started their current genocide of the Palestinians.

Do you really think all this leading into the Iran war was not carefully planned out?

 

[Meengla]

I see no evidence to the contrary.

The Army sold out a sitting Prime Minister because the US/Israel didn’t like the fact that he couldn’t be controlled by them and would likely not have silently stood by when the Israelis started their current genocide of the Palestinians.

Do you really think all this leading into the Iran war was not carefully planned out?

Pakistan's policy would be exactly the same regardless of who was the PM of Pakistan. There is the threat from India--which people like you seem to discount--and then follow the money coming into Pakistan and those sources. Follow Pakistan's export destinations.
The problems facing Pakistan are of governance and overpopulation.
Let's not get into the false 'regime change' discussion in this forum. By now only those infected by the Khan Virus are not disabused of such notions.
Back to the topic.

 

[krash]

but the Shia theological regime cannot shun the historical victimhood cloak and wants to keep it hot. Taking revenge on Sunni Gulf states, KSA, and USA+Israel, all same time.

It wasn't about any of that. Iran saw interests in the Strait that it believes it can secure, that's it. You can argue for or against that but it did not do it for some sectarian or vengeful reasons. States aren't run on these infantile notions. They're only used for political gain, everywhere. Besides Iran was clearly ready to extend its hand to the Arabs.

as expected, you were arguing for red herring from the beginning!

my question to you (rather, to a slave!) is,


why did a broken, torn and sanctioned country, took the aim and how did it fire a missile?!!!


given that question, your big boasts and big talk of air force this that becomes more diluted not strong!


USA is global and sole super power, IR will fire missile at USA..

how come it attacked you?!!!!

because, to them (a country which is impeded by sanctions) you are only a paper tiger!

get it?!!!!

My American Eskimo agrees, tries to go after my neighbor's mastiff regularly. Of course Pakistan's strength must be judged by what Iran did before Pakistan brought its strength to bear, not after......pffft........

Just like yourself and many others on this very thread, someone in Iran got high on their own supply and dreamt that it was bigger than it actually was. Like a good neighbor, Pakistan politely cured that delusion...we had had practice. Unfortunately, Pakistani weapons cannot cure desperate cope born from debilitating insecurities and latent agendas...not to the East, not to the West, and not within. So, feel free to see strength where the rest see stupidity.

but someone who has dedicated few years towards sincere education

Dude, please.

explained more clearly:
one of the most heavily sanctioned countries on earth. Was this country truly so incompetent, so utterly incapable, that even under the weight of endless sanctions it still managed to take first shot?


And yet, if it could chose to, it could deal with our air force without hesitation. What made the whole spectacle absurd was that you people keep rambling on about air force, reciting tales of military glory!.

The contrast between 'that' confidence and reality was so stark!



It is rather ironic that people living in a country free from sanctions believe they have accomplished something extraordinary. The nation they are criticizing, however, has continued to function despite being subjected to heavy sanctions for years.


As for them they are saying, those sanctions make little difference to us; we would still be able to confront you regardless of them!!!

imagine the level of incompetence on our side!

Read above and people who can't afford underwear have taken first shots at Iran, Pakistan, and the US. You've wasted your sincere education, I'm afraid.

 

[Immortals]

IR has accepted casualties of four members.. Saudia has really climbed the escalation ladder... Precise intelligence by US/Israil and traitorous insiders.

The picture clearly shows a 5th coffin draped in Iranian flag.

Also there are rumors that a IRGC Quds force general was killed as well that headed the Iraqi operations file.

Remains to be seen, but Iran purposely withholding casualties is not new since publically announcing a large casualty count means Iran will have to respond or look weak.

 

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@Persian Gulf

So this is why we saw the "random missile strikes to Jordan" by Iran. So they turned out because of this strike.

Serious question, is the fact that Iran responding to attacks to it a show of restraint, maturity or that its trying to avoid escalation. If its the latter then for someone like trump he sees that as weakness.

Here I was thinking Iran finally employed a pre-emptive strike strategy.

 

[Jalz]

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Seems Iran should drain the SPR reserves until damage is permanent.

 

[tsunset]

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Seems Iran should drain the SPR reserves until damage is permanent.

All of these options will not achieve their true objective, which is regime change

 

[Jalz]

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@Persian Gulf

Doubtful that it was 20 personal.

All of these options will not achieve their true objective, which is regime change

They cant even if they wanted to.

 

[OldTwilight]

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Seems Iran should drain the SPR reserves until damage is permanent.

I think we should stop fearing nuclar strike by USA and build Nukes and put all these missiles in their asses .

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

It wasn't about any of that. Iran saw interests in the Strait that it believes it can secure, that's it. You can argue for or against that but it did not do it for some sectarian or vengeful reasons. States aren't run on these infantile notions. They're only used for political gain, everywhere. Besides Iran was clearly ready to extend its hand to the Arabs.



My American Eskimo agrees, tries to go after my neighbor's mastiff regularly. Of course Pakistan's strength must be judged by what Iran did before Pakistan brought its strength to bear, not after......pffft........

Just like yourself and many others on this very thread, someone in Iran got high on their own supply and dreamt that it was bigger than it actually was. Like a good neighbor, Pakistan politely cured that delusion...we had had practice. Unfortunately, Pakistani weapons cannot cure desperate cope born from debilitating insecurities and latent agendas...not to the East, not to the West, and not within. So, feel free to see strength where the rest see stupidity.



Dude, please.

please keep your subjective thoughts in your head and answer my question!

asked a question and got an example of dogs!

sheesh!

dude go ballon some air drugs, seems you are out of it!


You come across as an ignorant person who keeps taking jabs at others and thinks the person in front of him is ignorant as well

you can join Faisalabad theatre for your theatrics and dog stories!

 

[krash]

please keep your subjective thoughts in your head and answer my question!

asked a question and got an example of dogs!

sheesh!

dude go ballon some air drugs, seems you are out of it!

Right.....

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Right.....

Right what?!!!

did i tell some joke?!

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Islamic Resistance gives Baghdad one-week deadline to respond to US-Saudi attacks

The Islamic Resistance in Iraq on Wednesday issued a nearly one-week deadline to the Iraqi government to respond to a series of deadly US-Saudi dawn strikes that killed at least 20 members of the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF).

“We give the government entities that have demanded the resistance disarm a deadline of the 23rd of Safar [corresponding to August 6] to see what they will do,” it said in a statement.

The umbrella group further slammed Saudi Arabia as “nothing but a treacherous dagger or a dirty tool manipulated by the White House,” warning that a “response to the American enemy is inevitable and may target its agents in Saudi Arabia whenever the situation demands it.”

 

[Immortals]

So this is why we saw the "random missile strikes to Jordan" by Iran. So they turned out because of this strike.

The Jordan strike happened before the widespread strikes on Iraq.