Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[TallGuy]

Iran should bomb the White House and US police stations/institutions to help the people there overthrow the regime

Iran will drain there enemies dry, its not in their favor to ceasefire ..this will go on till 2035. they are thinking long-term.

 

[Magi]

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Indirect talks then.

 

[Meengla]

Excellent question. I would suggest that it may well be that the Strait is "leaky" but that the leak is so expensive to maintain that it would not be an economically viable long term prospect for the US to do so. Iran probably does have de facto control over the Strait, even if that means some ships get through under escort (which is clearly not a sustainable model).

The leak is too expensive to fix and too expensive to not fix. Which aptly reminds us that nothing was even broken before US-Israel started this war of choice!

"Expensive" is the operative word here. Deployments of so many ships, fuel, wear and tear, soldiers terms of deployments, accidents. A naval presence is not the same as as being on land. So maybe there was truth in the 'laundry room' fire and not hard to understand that given how unpopular this war is in America.
Even America can't sustain a naval blockade for long vs Iran's own blockade due to geographical reasons.

 

[hussain0216]

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SPR went from going down 6-7M barrels per week to now just 3-3.5M. A reduction rate of HALF. Iran is losing leverage if it cannot enforce the closure of the SoH. At this rate getting to 250M barrels could take months.

@Persian Gulf

This is true

It was China that actually stopped a fast oil price rise,

China allowed its own reserves to be depleted, this stopped a economic and oil crises

Their is much more defence against oil shocks now, then the 1970s

However the fundamental is still the same, at some point stocks head towards critical, now that may take many months, but it all depends on how and if the war continues



Iran cannot afford to give up control.of the Hormuz because it needs a financial boost after this war

Iran also needs all sanctions removed

These THREE things are holding up any agreement

1- Nukes
2- Hormuz
3- Sanctions

The U.S is willing to bend significantly on sanctions, and even offer incentives

The nuclear issue and Hormuz issue both sides won't budge on

 

[kobra]

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[Immortals]

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Trump has gone on record today saying he won’t let Iran charge.

So for Iran what is the point of being basically the Mall Security Cop of the SoH?

It seems Trump has been pretty consistent — no charging of tolls, strait must be opened, no nuclear “dust”.

It is Iran that has been inconsistent with its messaging due to these loser reformists and politicians like Qalibaf. First they were charging $1M tolls. Then it became optional. Then it became joint with Oman. Then it was two lanes. Now it’s going to be one lane.

 

[kobra]

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[Nawnaw1]

"Expensive" is the operative word here. Deployments of so many ships, fuel, wear and tear, soldiers terms of deployments, accidents. A naval presence is not the same as as being on land. So maybe there was truth in the 'laundry room' fire and not hard to understand that given how unpopular this war is in America.
Even America can't sustain a naval blockade for long vs Iran's own blockade due to geographical reasons.

Especially knowing that the US has zero industrial capacity. Can't replace it's ships, not even close. Can't even fully repair its ships (takes years). Not that they can't sustain this on the medium term, but its a pathetic empire that's using it's last breaths trying to subdue medium sized enemies while it still theoretically can.

 

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Trump has gone on record today saying he won’t let Iran charge.

So for Iran what is the point of being basically the Mall Security Cop of the SoH?

It seems Trump has been pretty consistent — no charging of tolls, strait must be opened, no nuclear “dust”.

It is Iran that has been inconsistent with its messaging due to these loser reformists and politicians like Qalibaf. First they were charging $1M tolls. Then it became optional. Then it became joint with Oman. Then it was two lanes. Now it’s going to be one lane.

This guy here acting as if Iran is more powerful than China, the US and Russia put together. Lol, it's a middle power at best and it's not taken seriously by the US. So maybe adjust your goals.

 

[Magi]

I am nearly certain if Trump has a heart attack today, then POTUS Vance will wrap up this war and no more while he would be the President.

These people operate inside an ecosystem and must fall in line to survive. There are countless levers acting to keep them in line. There has been little if any fundamental change in foreign policy regardless of who has been in power over the decades.

 

[Shags101]

Said it beforeView attachment 209329

Since I am American I felt it was my duty to repost this on the American perspective side actually pretty funny……I have noticed a huge drop there since GCC states haven’t participated in any attacks on Iran as of late weird Iran not attacking Arab or Muslim states not participating in attacks on Iran right and all of a sudden people stop participating(trolling) in these threads for the most part

 

[brazensword]

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Ukraine created this Frankenstein cruise missile in 2 years of warfare.

Meanwhile, 30 years later, iran is still firing C-802 derivative cruise missiles from China. And still have S-136 as their main munition flying at skyscraper level.

This country stopped innovating back in 2010.

Ukraine has access to every western military tech ever created. Your 2 celled brain lost 10 cells when you wrote that post

 

[Nawnaw1]

Ukraine has access to every western military tech ever created. Your 2 celled brain lost 10 cells when you wrote that post

Indeed, maybe except nukes. Literally everything comes from the West. You name it: bullets, shells, tanks, apc's, Starlink, ISR, cruise missiles, air defence. Everything.