Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Lulldapull]

More attacks on Bahrain while UAE and Qatar where the vast majority of U.S. airpower is stored in the region is sitting untouched.

The cowardice of Iran avoiding hitting these two countries will go down in history as corrupt officials have likely made $$$$ extortion deals.

Iran is not fighting to win this war, it is using it as a way to enrich the political elite like a Mafia extorting its local neighbors.

There is NO VALID REASON why US bases in UAE and Qatar have not been hit in MONTHS

The US and Euros are the same as Iran too then no?.......beat up on colluddzz religious tribals and take their resources and fleece them too no?

Whats da diff?

Russia doing the same to them colluddz in Central Hatia no?

So whats new according to Iran International?

Sawdi judean brainwashed us Pakistani over the last halfa century with the blessings of da hillbilly n jew no?

Whats da diff?

 

[F.O.X]

You missed a few points my friend.

First, Iran is not the aggressor, and the aggressor side has to agree to logical conditions of defending side. According to international laws, USA's attack on a sovereign nation was illegal. Given that USA under Trump is a dumbfuck as a whole, you cannot expect logic from them. When the other side doesn't accept logic, you will be forced into implementing aggressive measures.

Moreover Iran is not and was not looking for some kind of victory, its 47 years that USA has been designing sedition to get rid of Islamic republic which it sees as the biggest obstacle on the way of full control of middle east and Islamic world in general.

This fight is not Trump's sudden decision, its been postponed for 47 years. Jimmy Carter tried it, Trump will not have a better ending. Point is, Trump was foolish enough to try it an Zionists abused his idiocy.

Now all it returns to this, was Trump's decision an act of idiocy? It will be clarified after waves of fights not behind keyboards. If we bring our hands down, the whole blood of resistance forces from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen etc will be in vain. Simple as that.

I never said Iran was the aggressor, nor am I defending the legality of the US attack. But being morally or legally right does not automatically give you the power to dictate terms. International politics unfortunately does not work like a courtroom.

Iran had created enough leverage to bring the other side to negotiations. At that point, the logical move was to convert that leverage into an acceptable settlement. Instead, the IRGC overestimated its strength and assumed that further escalation would produce even better terms. Now Iran wants negotiations, while the other side sees no urgency to respond. That is the miscalculation I am talking about.

And saying that Iran must continue because otherwise the blood already spilled would have been “in vain” is exactly the sunk-cost thinking that prolongs wars. How many more Iranians must die before that blood is considered sufficient? The purpose of resistance should be to secure the state and its people, not to keep fighting forever merely to justify previous sacrifices.

Trump may well have acted foolishly and illegally, but your enemy’s stupidity does not excuse your own strategic mistakes. Iran had an opportunity to turn survival into a political win. The IRGC squandered it by mistaking resistance for superiority.

 

[F.O.X]

A very outdated mindset which has been discussed to death.

If you think US is going to honour the agreement after killing Khamenei, then I am a Nigerian prince living in Singapore.

Who said anything about trusting the US?

Agreements between hostile states are not based on trust, they are based on leverage and consequences. Iran could have used the negotiations to stop the immediate damage, preserve its remaining capabilities and buy time to rebuild. Even a temporary agreement would have been better than continuing an escalation it could not sustain.

And if negotiations were always pointless because the US cannot be trusted, then why is the Iranian leadership looking for negotiations now? What has suddenly changed, other than Iran negotiating from a much weaker position?

Calling every strategic retreat “surrender” is not resistance, it is simply bad strategy.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

More attacks on Bahrain while UAE and Qatar where the vast majority of U.S. airpower is stored in the region is sitting untouched.

The cowardice of Iran avoiding hitting these two countries will go down in history as corrupt officials have likely made $$$$ extortion deals.

Iran is not fighting to win this war, it is using it as a way to enrich the political elite like a Mafia extorting its local neighbors.

There is NO VALID REASON why US bases in UAE and Qatar have not been hit in MONTHS

دولت پزشکیان (یا همون روحانی سوم و بنی صدر دوم) پول خوبی ازشون میگیره و مانع هست

 

[Be dazzled]

 

[Abdul q]

 

[Be dazzled]

Chickened out.

 

[Arash]

Such a credible source........

 

[Hayabusa]

Who said anything about trusting the US?

Agreements between hostile states are not based on trust, they are based on leverage and consequences. Iran could have used the negotiations to stop the immediate damage, preserve its remaining capabilities and buy time to rebuild. Even a temporary agreement would have been better than continuing an escalation it could not sustain.

And if negotiations were always pointless because the US cannot be trusted, then why is the Iranian leadership looking for negotiations now? What has suddenly changed, other than Iran negotiating from a much weaker position?

Calling every strategic retreat “surrender” is not resistance, it is simply bad strategy.

Once again, you are missing the point and you are using using AI-genersted arguments to respond rather than trying to understand.

Do you really think US will honour the agreement that is set? Let me give you an example. If they can tear up he Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action 2015, do you think you can trust them to even come to an agreement?

The only thing they want from the start is complete surrender from Iran. Nothing else. And no, Iran is definitely not looking for negotiations either judging from their response last night.

 

[SMC]

Chickened out.

Sincere apologies @Immortals

 

[Arash]

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Iranians will act as such probably when Mars becomes U.S. territory....

 

[F.O.X]

Once again, you are missing the point and you are using using AI-genersted arguments to respond rather than trying to understand.

Do you really think US will honour the agreement that is set? Let me give you an example. If they can tear up he Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action 2015, do you think you can trust them to even come to an agreement?

The only thing they want from the start is complete surrender from Iran. Nothing else. And no, Iran is definitely not looking for negotiations either judging from their response last night.

Calling an argument “AI generated” is an easy way to avoid answering it.

Yes, the US walked away from the JCPOA. That is exactly why any new agreement would require phased implementation, verification and reciprocal compliance, not blind trust. Negotiations between enemies are never based on trust.

And Iran retaliating last night does not prove it has rejected negotiations. Countries fight and negotiate at the same time. Pezeshkian has explicitly said Iran remains open to negotiations and will reciprocate if the US honours its commitments. So your claim is contradicted by Iran’s own president

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-president-says-tehran-will-reciprocate-if-us-honours-interim-deal-2026-09-01/

And if agreements with the US are completely pointless, then what the hell was Iran doing signing an MoU with them in the first place? Why is its leadership now practically begging to return to negotiations? You cannot claim that negotiations are useless while Iran itself keeps pursuing them.

My point remains the same. Iran had a much stronger hand earlier and squandered it by overestimating its position. It is now trying to obtain similar terms after losing much of its leverage. Whether the US can be trusted is a separate question and does not make the IRGC’s miscalculation just disappear much like its leadership.

 

[Arash]

It’s a terror attack most likely

Hope they got the culprit and his family.

 

[Flotilla]

I wouldn’t cheer so hard. More radical people fill in the ones who leave.

How the hell a foreigner israeli would occupy such a high rank inside Pentagon?

It must be fake.