Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

UKBengali said:
Actually Iran would not be escalating if it razed some Zionist missile manufacturing plants as then it would be Iran getting even. Iran would have attacked 3 times for 3 attacks on it by the Zionists.

What makes you so sure that the US would attack Iran if it retaliates to last Friday's attack?

We need to be aware that in a war that the US bases in the ME would be destroyed along with the world economy. They are not going to even think about attacking Iran for what would be a proportionate response. US is not as crazy as some like to think it is.
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Because if Iran attacks it will be followed by another Israeli attack. Each one will be slightly more lethal than the last.

US public and donor class will not tolerate Iran having the last say.

Whoever the US President - they will have to backup Israel.

Iran’s objective was to let the Zionists know - if Iran goes down - so will Israel.

I think that has been achieved.

Hence Iran can walk away with head held high.

Keep fortifying strategic assets and mend fences with the Arabs.

Iran is destined to be the leader of the Muslim world because they are the best educated and technologically advanced Muslims.

But they will have to suffer a lot of pain for a couple of decades!
 
Alter_Ego said:
I think the US wont enter the war.
Its a bluff. US will abandon Israel.
Its that or loose the global supremacy.
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The US will never lose her global supremacy as long as it remains the world's only real source of innovation and technology, particularly the semiconductor industry. Only China can change the status quo. The US also controls energy in the world.
The US can afford a war with Iran and ask the world to pay for it.
 
LongLiveIran said:
The US will never lose her global supremacy as long as it remains the world's only real source of innovation and technology, particularly the semiconductor industry. Only China can change the status quo. The US also controls energy in the world.
The US can afford a war with Iran and ask the world to pay for it.
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It’s also the worlds largest oil producer and it and Canada sit on more than a 1/5 of the world’s fresh water supply.
 
BananaRepublic said:
Because if Iran attacks it will be followed by another Israeli attack. Each one will be slightly more lethal than the last.
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The problem is the last Zionist attack was *almost* a total failure.

Iranian IADS held strongly and repelled most of the missiles and no Zionist plane dared get any closer than 100 km from the Iranian border.

They simply do not have anywhere near as much offensive power as Iran and Iran has 10x more targets than Occupied Palestine.

Shooting what could be a few hundred ALBMs and cruise missiles with 250kg warheads is not going to end well for you when the other side has many thousands of ballistic missiles with 750kg-1.5 tonne warheads.

Iran in essence can damage the entity far more than the other way round. However Iran prefers just to bleed it dry like what is happening with the fighting with the resistance around Palestine.
 
SteppeWolff said:
Which ain't happening till PRC changes their policy of non interference, Chinese don't get their hands dirty, project power and money trumps everything for them.
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China is a rational player. They have long-term plans for Taiwan. They don't want the Taiwanese to feel occupied when China eventually liberates Taiwan.
If the quality of life and economy in China get better than in Taiwan, people in Taiwan would view joining China more positively for sure.

China is also slowly working towards real independence. They have their own semiconductor industry capable of 3nm lithography. They have their own Linux distro and I've heard that they are even working on their own OS kernel. Huawei is abandoning Android soon. They have almost created their own Intranet that makes them far less dependent on the internet. Do not underestimate the Chinese in my opinion.

China is doing quite well. The collective West has been dragged into a money sucking quagmire called the Ukraine war while China is benefiting from discounted energy from Russia and Iran.
 
SteppeWolff said:
Which ain't happening till PRC changes their policy of non interference, Chinese don't get their hands dirty, project power and money trumps everything for them.
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China cannot be a superpower even if it wanted to.

It would have to be a magnet for global talent and billionaires.

Don’t see how that happens whilst China is a controlled socially and the language is a big barrier too.

In fact, I can make a better case for even India lol
 
BananaRepublic said:
China cannot be a superpower even if it wanted to.

It would have to be a magnet for global talent and billionaires.

Don’t see how that happens whilst China is a controlled socially and the language is a big barrier too.

In fact, I can make a better case for even India lol
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They have 1.3 billion people and they're smart. The average IQ of China is said to be around 105. One of the highest in the world. They do have a huge talent pool with hard working people.
Other than that, they haven't been infested with Western values yet. Family is still very important in China. The stereotypes about Asian parents are not wrong lol
 
SteppeWolff said:
Indeed, let's see if in upcoming TP-3, Iran gives a proportional response, eliminating Zions in response to the martyrdoms of last Zionia attack.
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Are you sure about TP 3 even happening ?

Chances right now are low for that.
 
UKBengali said:
The problem is the last Zionist attack was *almost* a total failure.

Iranian IADS held strongly and repelled most of the missiles and no Zionist plane dared get any closer than 100 km from the Iranian border.

They simply do not have anywhere near as much offensive power as Iran and Iran has 10x more targets than Occupied Palestine.

Shooting what could be a few hundred ALBMs and cruise missiles with 250kg warheads is not going to end well for you when the other side has many thousands of ballistic missiles with 750kg-1.5 tonne warheads.

Iran in essence can damage the entity far more than the other way round. However Iran prefers just to bleed it dry like what is happening with the fighting with the resistance around Palestine.
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Iranians are a cunning people.

They have proven they can take Israel down with them if US attacks.

That’s all they needed to do and they did with aplomb.

Iran has actually helped the US because US will now be able to use the Iranian deadly threat to control the Zionists!

Iran can now use their proxies to keep mowing the lawns whilst keeping their homeland intact.
 
LongLiveIran said:
They have 1.3 billion people and they're smart. The average IQ of China is said to be around 105. One of the highest in the world. They do have a huge talent pool with hard working people.
Other than that, they haven't been infested with Western values yet. Family is still very important in China. The stereotypes about Asian parents are not wrong lol
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who would you rather be?

US who can pick the best talent from 7 billion people - without having to feed any of them?

Or China who can only pick from 1.3 billion but has to feed them as well?

US also has a 1.3 billion talent pool - it’s called India lol And they don’t have to feed any of them lol
 
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