Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

They're pushing regime change or even normalization with Israel

With complete dismantling of nuclear program

This is just signaling to Iran to give up and accept the US/Israel demands of regime change and complete dismantling of nuke program. But if Iran agrees to this, there list of demands will never stop. Its a battle of nerves for the next few weeks. But it will not go beyond that. If Iran can inflict massive damage on Israel in the meantime, this war will have been a total failure and Iran will be safe for a very very long time.

 

[MNZGamerX]

This seems to be a very doubtful claim -

 

[StormBreaker]

Wait and see what Israel does diplomatically. I'm not convinced Israel is thinking of a ceasefire just yet.

Me neither. They’re the strongest cult

 

[RescueRanger]

Not helping Iran at this time while the West is actively helping Israel is not 'playing both sides'.

Putin has clearly decided to bow to his own Zionist masters and throw Iran under the bus.

Putinsky will offer Iran platitudes - just wait and see. Russia needs to keep Israel and US on their good side - but they will definitely push back if anyone mentions forced regime change in Iran, however don't expect them to do much beyond that - possibly if peace is achieved they will be involved in rebuilding and investment they do have a cultural and economic partnership with Iran.

 

[Brutal.]

Destroying Israel is objective enough but I hope the Iranians realize that the main reason we cannot help them right now is because of India.

Keep in mind if Iran falls, Pakistan will be in deep trouble as well. With india on 1 border and pro israel regime on the other, Pakistan will have to stay in a constant state of battle. Specially if israel supports bla through Iran in balochistan. So no matter how much we try to stay away, the results of this war will truly affect us in the long run.

 

[Shags101]

Wait and see what Israel does diplomatically. I'm not convinced Israel is thinking of a ceasefire just yet.

Unless America intervenes which I personally don’t think they will but who knows anymore Israel will declare mission accomplished Irans nuclear ambitions have been rolled back a decade blah blah but that will be because interceptors are almost at zero so in Irans best interest to not stop hitting military targets until Israel begs for the un for a ceasfire

 

[El Sidd]

Destroying Israel is objective enough but I hope the Iranians realize that the main reason we cannot help them right now is because of India.

Pakistan does not recognise Israel, it does not mean she seeks to destroy it.

Best we can hope is that Israel becomes a peaceful Egyptian province again. Although previous government did throw an olive branch at Israel by suggesting that Pakistani governments will recognise Israel as part of two state solution in the near East.

India is inconsequential. She is just war booty now in larger context.

 

[RescueRanger]

This seems to be a very doubtful claim -

Adam is talking nonsense.

 

[Taimoor]

but there are moles there, we cant risk our people...

some one needs to take care of our economy too, this will expose us and provide others opportunity to backstab us..

we need to be very careful.. although, if iranians fight bravely and cause huge damages, then, we can think about that.

You still dont get it dont you?

I am amazed that Pakistanis, out of all people, still haven't learned the bitter lessons of the fk ups our "Allamas" did over Afghanistan. Actually, they were not fk up, they were were just very dirty betrayals for petty personal interests, packaged as "national interests". 80k dead, 120 billion lost in economy, and you taking about risking our people and economy??

Let me be blunt, we simply cannot afford any fire buring in our western flank when our mortal enemy is breathing down our neck. we cannot afford that fire in west become a wild fire, we must act fast and decisively. In longer run, infact, even in short term, it will be hugely beneficial to us if Israel's abilities and capabilities are degraded, because its the arm that feed India.

I would say, Infact, for us to capture the Mecca, Khyber must be destroyed first.

 

[Comandante]

Israeli planes can stay above the missile launch sites for maybe 10 minutes before they have to go back to refuel. In the future, the air defense could use this as a trap by creating simulated launch sites.

 

[ShapurII]

btw if Houthis can reach Israel from 2100km+ away then I am pretty sure our bases in central/east Iran can do the same @Immortals

I'm almost 100% sure that they're anticipating the situation to get much worse.
So, they're trying to preserve their fire power now.

This is a regime change attempt. No doubt about it.

 

[koolio]

 

[Blueishere]

I'm sure India is taking notes from Israel, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next Pak-India skirmish, drones start popping up from within Pakistan. ISI needs to focus on internal security and safety.

 

[Meengla]

How is it a wise decision to throw Pakistan into a war with no objective opening a front right next to our soft underbelly in Balochistan?

From me watching Pakistani analysts, the conclusion is what if there is a regime change in Iran as a result of this conflict, then it will be far worse for Pakistan then current regime is. Americans are not going to install a regime in Iran which won't serve the American interests and American interests are very much in an antagonistic way with the Chinese interests and America's local strategic partner India would welcome such new regime in Iran.

So lets set aside all the emotional, civilizational, religious and ethnic ties with Iran, to those Pakistanis have them and think in a cold, calculated way. I think, if possible, China should supply massive numbers of missiles to Iran which would be operated by Pakistani 'advisors' already with expertise in using those missiles. That's also a 'plausible deniability' scenario.

 

[mangekyo]

Looks like they are 3D printing the frames and stacking explosives. Probably using a cheap flightcontroller like navio or px. The transmitter even looks like a taranis. This setup is extremely cheap to make and you don’t even need any electronics knowledge. There could be hundreds of thousands of these around Iran :/