Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I hope he doesn't either. He does a lot of dumb stuff at times but in reality is no worse than any other President. He's just not as polished as them, And, let's not forget he was the driving force to us pulling out of Afghanistan. Not the guy I call Dopey Joe.

Gotta admit; he's a tough bastard. Look at what the US left and Deep State have put him through.
I've always admired Trump in a way, I know I'm not going to win any friends for admitting that. *grabs parachute* time to bail.
 
You are indeed entitled to your opinion. And I will respect that.

We could have easily withdraws during W's 2nd term. But we didn't.

Obama had 8 years and didn't withdraw. Talked about it but didn't do anything. It was Trump who decided this wasn't going anywhere and it was time to go.

To be frank, I saw that myself when I was there. In 2006.
I am an economist and I know this for a fact it could have not gone on for longer it was taking to much money and way prolonged..

the entire war on terror was the most expensive war in history and unsustainable which is why the war on terror ended as whole it could not be continued otherwise the US would start to whither away as power and that is where China and Russia used that time to play catch up especially China they benefited from the US wasting alot of economy like trillions of USD
 
Can someone please ban this guy for the love of god..

I swear he is an Indian implant
Gent is not an Indian, he is a bonafide American, please respect other members and stop demanding mods ban everyone what's this North Korea? This is a discussion forum.

If you keep banning everyone soon all you will hear is the sound of your own Echo...
 
*cough* Ahem........I'm an American (though accused of being an Indian Wahhabi troll whatever that is). My view is; Israel started this. Let them and Iran punch each other silly until they've decided they've had enough. Each side can only puff their 56" chests for so long.

Got enough problems here at home without having to run off and deal with someone else's. We need to sit one out for awhile.
Exactly this is what trump doing right now. He is watching both and once both are done he is ready but it depends on who will kneel first.
 
Iran cant fight US+NATO+Israel alone. If it comes to that Iran will definitely go for ceasefire proposal as it will suit Trump's image but before doing that they should fire 500-800 Missiles at Israeli infrastructure and bases to make sure that Israel does not break ceasefire for another 6 months.

Jews have lied before about ceasefire.
 
Wrong part of the hemisphere. Right now, the only "NATO" nations providing support are the UK and US along with France. France is not NATO and has its own interests here. Perhaps maybe to prove the Rafale doesn't suck.

Let's be honest. In all-out fight, the Iranian Navy does not stand a chance against the US Navy.

President Trump has been clear: leave our bases alone, we'll leave you alone. Yeah, I get it, ok? The US is providing other support but for the time being, there are no American boots on the ground or "Thirty Seconds over Tehran" moments.

But as the the remainder of NATO? Not going to happen. They are too busy trying to deal with the fact they may have to deal with Russia at some point. And a lot of them are no real friend of Israel.
This thing can totally escalate without US and NATO getting involved and even though it doesn't look we're there yet there's this thing in the back of my mind a bad feeling I'm getting that this will end with the use of thee weapon. All the redlines have been crossed in this conflict with striking nuke sites, infrastructure, leadership, civilians and power plants to cliche it up, the genie is out of the bottle. Last time there was a huge war in middle east that got scary where superpowers had to intervene to stop it was the October 73 war. Hezbollah leadership was taken out but not their soldiers and they still have a lot of rockets that can reach Haifa if for some reason they decide to join and do infiltration attacks inside Israel things will start getting dodgy.
 
Gent is not an Indian, he is a bonafide American, please respect other members and stop demanding mods ban everyone what's this North Korea? This is a discussion forum.

If you keep banning everyone soon all you will hear is the sound of your own Echo...

Bro believe me he is an Indian. They have a pattern of posts and subjects such as instigations and stuff like that which is the same pattern all these fake handlers use on twitter.

Elon Musk is busting all of them now on twitter some of them even run alt-right accounts using similar patterns of instigation
 
ChatGPT says that if US deploys 450 aerial refueling tankers to Europe plus refueling tankers of UK, France, Germany, Spain - NATO can sustain 2000 aircraft sorties per day against Iran from bases in Europe in the first 6 days and 1000 sorties per day afterwards.

So if NATO goes to war against Iran on behalf of Israel, you can expect 2000 aircraft sorties per day from NATO bases in Europe and 280 Israeli aircraft sorties per day = 2280 sorties per day against Iran in the first 6 days and afterwards NATO+Israel can sustain 1250 sorties per day against Iran.

Iran has no missiles that can reach bases in Europe.

During the 1991 Gulf War US+allies made 110.000 aircraft sorties against Iraq which had a population of 15mln (without Kurdistan).

Iran has a population of 93mln people so at least 682.000 sorties is required to turn Iran into Iraq 1991 and assuming 1300 sorties per day the bombing campaign would last 524 days or 1,5 years.
 
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If it escalates , That would be whole Nato against iran..... But what will happen to their bases and carriers ? iran has not used its naval capabilities.... Will Nato be able to withstand the pressure of cruise and ballistic missiles rained at them in indian ocean ??
Yes, American CBGs will be fine. And the POTUS has stated in no uncertain terms what will happen to Iran, should they be foolish enough to hit American bases.
 

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