Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

kastor ville said:
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Channel 14 is the most racist out of all state channels in Israel I would take anything they say with a massive spoon of salt and wait for other sources to confirm or deny.

At this point - the US may get involved but one can hope that is not the case.
 
It was understood from the beginning that Trump will intervene to stop the war once it started going too far. That's what he did with Pakistan and India and claimed credit for it.

So, if he's jumping into this, it means that he thinks that it's enough. The question is whether he’s using threats in order to get a deal or he really means to attack Iran on behalf of Israel.
 
Tamerlane said:
It was understood from the beginning that Trump will intervene to stop the war once it started going too far. That's what he did with Pakistan and India and claimed credit for it.

So, if he's jumping into this, it means that he thinks that it's enough. The question is whether he’s using threats in order to get a deal or he really means to attack Iran on behalf of Israel.
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He is not 'intervening'.

He is fighting for Israel.
 
the saint said:
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Can we please drop the "earthquake" theory - the Chaman fault line which runs down the spine of Pakistan is one of the most active in the world and Pakistan faces regular micro quakes daily:
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Tamerlane said:
It was understood from the beginning that Trump will intervene to stop the war once it started going too far. That's what he did with Pakistan and India and claimed credit for it.

So, if he's jumping into this, it means that he thinks that it's enough. The question is whether he’s using threats in order to get a deal or he really means to attack Iran on behalf of Israel.
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He is using threats to get a deal, but on his terms. He knows the longer this goes on and Iran continue pummeling Israel, the harder it becomes for him to hold off on attacking Iran due to the pressure by AIPAC.

Israel has turned off GPS, banned journalists from recording live and cutoff the internet. This is not the behavior of a state that believes it is winning,, but one that wants to hide losses and control the narrative.
 
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someone might have folded (Iran already folded tonight)
 
SecularNationalist said:
They can remove the mullahs at top but irani people are going no where.
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dude it's not that easy, and who is they? Any forced removal or defeat in a war is catastrophic, consider the nuclear program is eliminated for good, missile program is eliminated for good, oil and gas sold off to western corps, and the gold reserves will suddenly disappear. The west wont replace this current regime with an independent and strong regime, you'll get another weak federal decentralized gov like in Iraq or Syria, with several autonomous region at best if not total balkanization. The West wants weak dependent subservient puppet states without regional ambitions, to use and abuse at will.

Only way a regime change is successful is it comes from within, but the institutions must slowly transition and not immediately disbanded.

A superpower like the Soviet Union couldn’t handle a shock and awe type of system change, not many countries can.
 
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