Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[pashtunkoum]

No it can't

It would need a base of operations, where it would need to build up hundreds of thousands of soldiers if not over a million to take on a large nation like Iran

Any base within range would be blasted off the face of the earth by iran

USA has bases in 3 of the surrounding countries. They are also not going to go in blind. If the US were to get involved they would first nullify Irans military bombing all assets/launchers. Then they would invade at their pace and get to Tehran in no time.

Besides, they may not even do a ground invasion if they got involved. USA hold the most advanced bunker buster bombs that would be lethal to hidden assets.

The long story short is US better not get directly involved in this or it would truly be devastating for Iran.

 

[Tijani]

I would advise you to give up this habit of reading every post and just jump to latest news in a fast moving situation. Then we could all benefit from your commentary rather then reading response to stale news.

You're right bro! I'm just killing myself for nothing reading mostly nonsense. Jumping straight to the current page

 

[Immortals]

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[samejjangir]

When will iranians and Arabs learn about why we hate the Indians so much, especially the hindus

You really think Arabs & Iranians like Indians? Arabs were literally the sponsor of jihad movement in India with CIA help (100% funding was from Arabs). Iran always needles India regarding Kashmir & muslims and has tortured Indian diplomats as recently as 20 years ago.

What changed is that India has become too powerful and hence now commands respect. It is not due to love. If India has to remain friendly to Arabs, Iranians, Pakistan, BD etc despite the past attempts of harming India, there must be some incentives which is being given as remittance & investment. Else, India has every right to take revenge for the past misdeeds of sponsoring jihad and harming Hindus. Even then, it is only the Arabs who are being reasonable while Iran is still driving hard bargains.

 

[clutch]

This is not off topic. Dr
Israr is predicting what we are seeing here against Iran by Israel back in the 1990s. He is uncannily accurate and the Israeli next target.

It's in Urdu unfortunately for others.

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[Psyko70]

This is not off topic. Dr
Israr is predicting what we are seeing here against Iran by Israel. He is uncannily accurate and the Israeli next target.

It's in Urdu unfortunately for others.

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Best person for the analysis on israel no doubt

 

[Falcon29]

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[Ali_Baba]

A Gulfstream G550 just left Tel Aviv. Israel has two Eitam CAEW (Conformal Airborne Early Warning) and Three Shavit SEMA (Special Electronic Missions Aircraft). But why it is going away from the battlefield? Or is IAF relocating it to protect from missile strikes on its bases?

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Is Greece now becoming the rear of Israels military?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

USA has bases in 3 of the surrounding countries. They are also not going to go in blind. If the US were to get involved they would first nullify Irans military bombing all assets/launchers. Then they would invade at their pace and get to Tehran in no time.

Besides, they may not even do a ground invasion if they got involved. USA hold the most advanced bunker buster bombs that would be lethal to hidden assets.

The long story short is US better not get directly involved in this or it would truly be devastating for Iran.

No change in my position from nearly 10 hours ago. As long as Iran leaves our bases alone, we will leave Iran alone.

Even the damage to the former Embassy in TLV must have been inconsequential enough for the President to not respond.

 

[pashtunkoum]

Rafael were also supposed to be invincible. Before that it was Raptor of the East aka Su30. S400 was supposed to detect and eliminate any paf jet immediately upon take off.

Iran could have (a big could since no one was apparently willing to supply due to fear of sanctions) maintained a decent airforce coupled with a strong ground based AD. A country with HGVs can easily design decent SAMs - all that is left would be radar systems. Add in force multipliers (SOJ, awacs, etc) and Zionazis would have had quite a hard time doing what they're doing right now. AD without air cover is never as effective.

Despite all this Iran holding their own and smacking the illegitimate child of UK and US is quite satisfying. All prayers for Irani brethren, hope they rise from this even stronger and with low casualties.

Apples to Oranges.

1) Pakistan has spent decades developing its capable Air force. We have a pedigree of top jets, top pilots and so on that has pushed the air force high. Iran cannot just replicate that buy acquiring jets. Even if they acquire a fancy jet, without a sustained program (really difficult with sanctions and what not) it would be pointless.

As much as Pakistan is now benefiting from China, you cannot forego the years of US Air force training and equipment that really pushed the program to the top

2) And with the above, India has always had issues with Air Force. Israel on the other hand is the opposite where the Air Force is their pride

The gulf of capability between Iran and their top foe Israel when it comes to Air force is just way too much to compete for air superiority.

The thing is with amount of heavy sanctions Iran faced it was just too difficult. They did try with Qaher 313 and what not but its just not easy.

 

[samejjangir]

There is not enough time in a day to discuss how terrible the leadership in Iran has been.

1. Air Force- this isn’t even 21st century warfare. This is 20th century warfare. How can any country vying to be a great power or having the enemies that they have, go without a strong Air Force?

2. Policy - Iran has been ruled by inflexible ideologues who have made enemies out of everyone in the region while not building the requisite power base to do so. Their domestic policies also cause needless annoyance with their enforcement of stupid religious laws.

3. Trusting India and providing visa free travel to India - What the ****? Are they snorting coke?

4. Not building a nuclear bomb but dilly dallying about it for two decades as a negotiating tactic. Do I need to elaborate here?

Iran has made enemies of everyone. It doesn't have any trust on India but simply allows visa on arrival to get tourist revenues, build trade ties and to build its influence to Shia muslims in India. Indians don't send trained agents for doing terror attacks and hence this is simply a low risk measure. There is no trust. If Iran really trusted India, it would not make comments on Kashmir every now and then and would have given concessions at its gas fields.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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Moschiah

 

[Psyko70]

Is Greece now becoming the rear of Israels military?

In 2025, Greece and Israel continue to strengthen their strong and multifaceted relationship, marked by increasing cooperation in defense, energy, and strategic partnerships. This is partly driven by shared concerns about regional stability and Turkey, and by the energy resources in the Eastern Mediterranean.
Here's a more detailed look:
Defense Cooperation:
Greek-Israeli defense ties are growing, with Israeli defense firms actively participating in Greek defense exhibitions and showcasing advanced technologies.
Greece is both a buyer of Israeli defense products and a security partner for Israel.
The partnership is seen as a response to shared concerns about Turkey and its regional influence.
The "Energy Triangle" initiative, involving Greece, Cyprus, and Israel, is also relevant to security, with potential for joint projects in the Eastern Mediterranean.
Strategic Partnership:
Greece and Israel consider each other allies, collaborating in military, intelligence, and economic spheres.
They are part of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), the Union for the Mediterranean, and the World Trade Organization (WTO).
Bilateral relations have deepened, with regular high-level visits and joint exercises.
Energy Cooperation:
The EastMed pipeline project, involving Greece, Cyprus, and Israel, aims to transport natural gas to Europe, showcasing energy cooperation.
This project has faced challenges, but remains a focal point for regional energy cooperation.
Regional Context:
The relationship has strengthened as Israel's ties with Turkey have deteriorated.
The "Energy Triangle" is seen as a way to counterbalance Turkey's regional influence and create a new regional architecture.
Greece and Israel also cooperate on maritime security in the Eastern Mediterranean.
Overall:
Greece and Israel's relationship is dynamic and expanding, driven by shared interests in security, energy, and regional stability. While there have been some challenges and criticisms, particularly regarding Israeli actions in the Gaza war, the overall trend is towards closer cooperation and partnership.

The bold part in ai asked about relarionship of israel and greece in 2025.

Ai is weak source but not wrong

 

[Rainy]

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Imagine if Russia cheats and send in S400/s500 to Iran instead of s300 spares. And Iran takes out half of these tankers down. I imagine stories

 

[Watandar]

Iran has made enemies of everyone. It doesn't have any trust on India but simply allows visa on arrival to get tourist revenues, build trade ties and to build its influence to Shia muslims in India. Indians don't send trained agents for doing terror attacks and hence this is simply a low risk measure. There is no trust. If Iran really trusted India, it would not make comments on Kashmir every now and then and would have given concessions at its gas fields.

India absolutely sends trained agents to do terror attacks. Just one example

How a killing at a Sikh temple led to Canada and India expelling each other's diplomats

Relations between India and Canada are at a low point as the countries expelled each other’s top diplomats over an ongoing dispute about the killing of a Sikh activist in Canada.

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Back to topic now.