Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Moving forward, it seems that Trump is backing off from joining directly, but may be giving Israel a limited number of bunker busters to try and do the job of destroying the underground nuclear facilities itself (which will likely only do very limited damage, because these underground bases massive in size and scale, and the bombs aren't likely to reach the depth require with only a few hits).
Israel already has the 5,000lbs GBU28, that is not enough to put a dent in Fordow. That is why the Israelis begged Trump to join them because only the US have the kit to dump the MOP.
 
1. Please speak in English in a non Pakistani thread
2. This is based on what we are reading in International Media
3. Its not an open secret China will be the biggest loser in the Persian Gulf region if there is regime change in Iran as china relies on cheap oil from Iran.

Kindly stick on the topic - I am not in the habit of "scuttlebutt", I only talk on serious topics.

Thanks


You are too quick to accept and project Israeli version and propaganda......Remeber they are master deceivers and propaganda masters....I will not take their claims as a proof but will judge situation as it is happening on hourly bases based on common sense proof.

So far few things are clear.....

Iran is conserving its energy and arsenal and is responding bare minimum to keep Israelis on their toes. Real threat will not be from Israel if Americans choose to attack but from their bases located very close to Iran, For that Iran will be wise to bite the bullet and not reveal their cards.

It is no joke to face the might of Western coalition and Iran needs to be prepared. They need to activate Shia militias in all countries they have an influence on and put them on notice to start attacking in case Iran gets attacked.....doing so with out getting attacked by the USA first will give the pretext to Western coalition to unleash. There is still apossibility America will not attack as the opposition from MAGA is growing and even some top senators are openly asking why are we going to attack. Just now a top Republican senator was on TV saying that we give Israel $4 B and all the help and they should fight the war.

There is no sign of regime collapse....Israelis are attacking civilian targets to cause civil break down such as police stations and civil intelligence headquarters. They see no one coming out and saying anything against the regime...Infact the regime is facing support from common Iranians who otherwise hated them.

Lastly the very fact that ISRAEL is literally begging USA to help them shows they have not only failed to achieve their objectives but feel stuck in the situation they need someone to rescue them.



Interesting days ahead....
 
I'm not a traitor, but this bloodbath needs to stop EVEN if that means abandoning enrichment

The most important point in any deal is to let Iran rebuild conventionally
Even if it means abandoning Iran's missiles? Might as well become a Zionist stooge at that point because we will have lost all honor as Iranians!!!
 
Noy on purpose. AI is becoming too realistic . However, if the following ain't AI it suggests a new missile likely two stage or more.

looks similar to Chinas HGV test, could be Iran showing off to the Americans

 
You are too quick to accept and project Israeli version and propaganda.
Not my first rodeo... But sure you do you. Just please don't go applying labels on me because that will not be taken lightly. Just because I prefer to be factual and objective doesn't make me a dullard that likes to be spoon-fed.

Thanks for your time.
 
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The E‑4B serves as a high-altitude, nuclear-hardened airborne command center for the U.S. President, Secretary of Defense, and Joint Chiefs.

Outfitted with EMP shielding, hardened communications, and room for dozens, it is designed to maintain continuity of government in worst-case scenarios—and stay aloft for days via in-flight refueling.

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sammiches.

 
They would be in much better position now if they let assad go but lot of paranoia and their own ambitions and unrealistic plans backfired.
Pretty sure that as pragmatic as they are new syrian government would be ambiguos and ready to cooperate with iranians if they stayed away from syria.
Justification for their meddle due the fear Hezbollah cutting off is long stretched and paranoic. On the other hand when ISIS emerged it showed in certain extent that their fears were had some base. But all that is over now and it is salvaging time for everybody.
No it didnt have any basis. ISIS emerged from Iraq and invaded Syria from the east in the middle of the war, they wouldn't even have been a factor if the Iranians and Russians didn't step in to prop up the regime and save it when it was about to collapse at the beginning. If we weren't busy fighting the criminal regime and its allies in the west and south of the country, ISIS wouldn't have been able to invade us from the east. The first thing they did was attack the revolutionaries and they wouldn't have been able to become a thing in Syria if we weren't already busy fighting the regime everywhere else. They would've been confined to Iraq.
 
Israel already has the 5,000lbs GBU28, that is not enough to put a dent in Fordow. That is why the Israelis begged Trump to join them because only the US have the kit to dump the MOP.
CNN, I believe, reported that there are talks to supply Israel with the kits required to get to the depth required to damage the underground facilities.

The issue here would be that the bombs required are only carried by strategic bombers, so no idea how Israel would manage such a thing, because they don't have a single strategic bomber in their fleet.
 

Interception of Iranian ballistic missiles by Israeli defenses at very high altitude. The "shooting stars" seen after impact are debris from the missiles reentering the atmosphere. Most of it burns up on reentry, but larger ones can fall whole, potentially causing damage and even casualties.

These interceptions can occur at altitudes of over 150 km.
 

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