Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

I have a question chaps? if the US bombing Fordow and failing to destroy the site they will look very embarrassed. Why does everyone think only the US has the means to successfully destroy these underground sites. According to many experts its impossible if we believed them to be true. Then what’s next for US and Israel ????
 
You all read Fox News like I do. I'll spare you having to go there:

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They didn't ask me.
 
I have a question chaps? if the US bombing Fordow and failing to destroy the site they will look very embarrassed. Why does everyone think only the US has the means to successfully destroy these underground sites. According to many experts its impossible if we believed them to be true. Then what’s next for US ????
regime change first
 
I have a question chaps? if the US bombing Fordow and failing to destroy the site they will look very embarrassed. Why does everyone think only the US has the means to successfully destroy these underground sites. According to many experts its impossible if we believed them to be true. Then what’s next for US ????
Mainly because of the GBU-57 bomb that can only be deployed by the B-2. Pentagon officials believe it can do the job and they probably know their stuff.

Plus they will probably bombard it with 2 - 4. There's a high chance it succeeds it's not a small bomb.
 
I have a question chaps? if the US bombing Fordow and failing to destroy the site they will look very embarrassed. Why does everyone think only the US has the means to successfully destroy these underground sites. According to many experts its impossible if we believed them to be true. Then what’s next for US ????
My optimistic theory is the US needs to give the perception that they used some real heavy weight toys, and then hopefully there is some consensus on a mutual off-ramp for everyone, with some careful wording that means Iran does not have to cede or cease it's nuclear program but it is understood to be degraded


That's assuming of course Iran is in the mood, they said a few hours ago they have no interest in negotiations

Apparently the Americans will have to consistently go in and out in and out with bombing raids

I wonder then if the Chinese might be interested to have a look more closely
 
Mainly because of the GBU-57 bomb that can only be deployed by the B-2. Pentagon officials believe it can do the job and they probably know their stuff.

Plus they will probably bombard it with 2 - 4. There's a high chance it succeeds it's not a small bomb.
The B-52 is also capable of deploying it. That is public knowledge.

You will not see B-52s over Fordow.
 
I have a question chaps? if the US bombing Fordow and failing to destroy the site they will look very embarrassed. Why does everyone think only the US has the means to successfully destroy these underground sites. According to many experts its impossible if we believed them to be true. Then what’s next for US and Israel ????

I hope not, but the americans could end up using tactical nukes against Iran.
 
Not bad. the Israelis seem sending ground troops to Iran. those operatives laser mark the ground targets for israeli missiles, fighter jets and bombers.
 
Yes, I don't even think that's too dramatic to say, it's not as if people did not know what drones could do, but I find this use of drones almost a mix between medieval infiltration style war matched with modern gimmickry, it's cheap, it's scalable, effective pretty much anywhere

Exactly! Everything is an extension of what was... spears and arrows took battle away from swords and axes... bullets and arty took it further.
However this now already has strategic ramifications. A terror outfit running amok ever since the British mandate days... they always had to improvise... cause maximum damage, inflict terror. They know what they're doing... so they're rightly the first ones to use drones to collapse a state from within...

Ukrainian operation on Russian strategic bombers happened just recently however that was not to cause the collapse of Russian state. But simultaneously this was in play in Iran as if coordinated.
I'd really be interested if they used the same equipment in both operations... was their operational cohesion/collaboration? It will lead to the people in the shadows, pulling strings.
 
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Despite all the support, Israeli occupation is suffering the worst beating of its 77 year history against a country sanctioned and strangled militarily and economicall for 50 years.. History is being rewritten in the region. Iran is proving to be a might Israel won't want to face. Come to think of it, Iran has been bruising the body and ego of an entity pampered and cared by the West for nearly a century. Iran has literally avenged Palestinians single handedly that too without an active air Force.

A moment to revisit our priorities. Where is the ummah? Who has supported them in the hour they needed the most? Trust me, they're rewriting history.
Palestinians are still being killed in the hundreds daily. Iran is 1200 KMs away and cannot interdict on the ground to save them. the surrounding Sunni Arabs are the only chance that the Palestinians have from surviving the Holocaust. When Israel is done exterminating the Palestinians, it is them who will take the place of the Palestinians on the chopping block and the West will never come to their aid no matter how servile they are towards Israel now!
 
I have a question chaps? if the US bombing Fordow and failing to destroy the site they will look very embarrassed. Why does everyone think only the US has the means to successfully destroy these underground sites. According to many experts its impossible if we believed them to be true. Then what’s next for US ????
Now that IRI really doesn't have balls to create NUKES , as an Iranian I don't give **** about Fordow ....
What point of having enrichment capabilities without having nukes?

1 year ago, they killed Raisi and Hanyeh , IRI had 1 year to destroy Israeli agents network in Iran, instead, they just let them grow and carry one of most successful sabotage and terror operation in history in Iran which led to fall of our AD Network ....

Now, IRI want to play nice and negotiate with west, so they just stop using our old BM against Israel cities to restrain the damage we inflict on their citizen ...

There is a proverb in Persian , "An idiot friend is worse than wise enemy"
 
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Yes because the US is not an actual democracy. It’s an authoritarian oligarchy where the elites hold complete power but go through the charade of elections in order to maintain legitimacy. However policy making is not democratic in the least as public opinion has no affect on the outcome.
If you read American constitution, potus is elected by council of electors, not directly from election, so getting majority of people's votes is not necessarily victory for that candidate...

He is the president of American united states, not president of America, there is crucial difference in this matter that is intentionally misused by msn...


And also, if grandpa, daddy and junior are all going to be leaders of the nation, it's clearly closed circle of the power holders
 

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