Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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apparently so deep that, entity will never end bombardment of IR

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Given the poor performance of Iran to date and its own "calibrated" response to Israel and USA, why should any one else do the fighting for Iran ?

 

[brazensword]

This is called an opinion by an analyst….
It is good to hear and listen to different points of view.

Post was targeted to someone else, i shared an opinion and got the same response lmao.

 

[FuturePAF]

How Iran could close the straits of Hormuz if it decides to do so from a capabilities point of view:

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[tsunset]

This is a fantastic read and reaffirms what I have been saying just now.

It's just not possible to hit that deep. Even if its 12 MOPs. Granite is much denser than than reinforced concrete and would most likely be able to withstand that impact.

If i was leading the Iranian military, I will just shut the hell up and let the whole world believe in US operation.

The Iranian population has to be informed to keep the morale up

I only agree for Iran to shut up about the next Israeli targets and "evacuation order", for seeking maximum casualties

 

[Shazam256]

Will the US now vote in favor of ceasefire at UNSC meeting or do they want to now attack Iran's ballistic missile program?

 

[Thinking]

Why ANYONE would believe ANYTHING posted on social media remains beyond my comprehension.

Next thing we'll see is the Knight's Templar marching.

You are going to take away the livelihood of many and only source of propaganda news for countless many..

 

[gambit]

BRICS is an economic collection (not even an alliance or trade partnership), NATO is a military alliance. Both are not same even one single bit.

Exactly. The Warsaw Pact fell apart without the Soviets. If BRIC is only an economic alliance, then of course, do not expect any BRIC member to come to Iran's aid.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

On the impact of the GBU-57 A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator bomb on the Fordow nuclear facility.

Presently there is no way to confirm one way or another. But I note that over the last 100 years we have persistently over estimated the impact of air bombing (please note - nuclear bombs aside).

In the First World War massed artillery was the revolutionary technique to destroy enemy positions. Didnt happen.

In World War Two, air strikes were supposed to totally finish German industrial output. Didnt happen.

The Vietnam war was so one sided, air power was supposed to destroy the communists. Never happened.

What history tells us is that air bombing tech is often countered by defensive measures on the ground.

Hence I for one am skeptical of the claim that Fordow has been completely destroyed.

Does not have to be completely destroyed. As @dbc posted several hours ago, centrifuges are delicate instruments. If, and that is IF, they were still there, the vibration could have been enough to upset them.

 

[Garcia Sea]

A tunnel without ventilation shafts is impossible. Civilian tunnels can manage ventilation through their exits, but tunnels that need to seal their entrances and exits to protect against missile attacks cannot.
There must always be vertical or diagonal ventilation shafts connected from the upper part of the mountain. If these are precisely targeted, any underground facility becomes defenseless.
That’s why underground facilities that have been fully exposed through inspections have no security. Underground facilities lose their effectiveness if their existence is no longer secret. The moment inspections were accepted, today’s situation was inevitable.

 

[Starlord]

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Trump is very likely blackmailed by Mossad, zionists

Not just Trump but many US Politicians and rich influential people, the whole operation was design for blackmailing, hence you see how they first kill Jeffery in jail and declare it a suicide (Yeah right) and than neither biden nor Trump got Balls to release those files, Trump has pics with Jeffery on his island, video evidence and lastly Elon also said that Trump's name is in the files, those who were literally worshiping Elon over DOGE claims suddenly start talking about taking his words with cautious ? Many Americans here deny it, or beat around the bush but the stark reality is that Israel runs/own the United States, and they use USA to take out every enemy that can be a potential threat to them, their grip on America is beyond repair, I've talked to common Americans who belong and support different Political ideologies but they all thinks that Israel is the victim, and those who even are skeptical of Israel's role in Middle East, for them the Arabs/Iran/Muslims are the bigger enemy/threat of West than Israel.
West is united in their world dominance, while Arabs divided into small border-ly states, China/Russia are growing but with the united western Powers they can't do anything because they never try to stand up to their allies, If I was any Middle Eastern country why would I be in China or Russia's camp? They won't come to rescue me from the bombing, you know who will ? America so you see why today when Iran is bombed we see nothing but statements from 2 big powers, while even smaller NATO countries like France/UK/Germany was fully active in their support of Israel.

 

[adir-L]

1. Limited retaliation with an off-ramp
Iran chooses a symbolic response—missile or drone strikes on Israeli or U.S. bases, or cyberattacks—to satisfy domestic calls for action without triggering broader war .
Negotiations resume, possibly mediated by other powers, establishing a fragile ceasefire and nucleus for future diplomacy .


2. Escalation into wider regional war
Iran targets U.S. and allied bases in the Gulf (Iraq, Syria, UAE) with missiles or proxies .
Proxies mobilize: Hezbollah, Houthis, and Iraqi militias launch attacks against Israel or shipping in the Red Sea and Strait of Hormuz .


3. Strategic oil-and-commerce disruption
Iran threatens or attempts to close the Strait of Hormuz, triggering global oil-price spikes and economic escalation
Energy infrastructure attacks: Cyber or missile strikes targeting regional pipelines and ports .

4. Protracted stalemate
Sustained low-intensity conflict with periodic strikes, growing civilian disruption, and drone/missile exchang.
U.S. becomes increasingly entrenched, potentially deploying more forces or bombers, deepening the conflict .



5. Breakdown in diplomacy & nuclear countdown
Iranians abandon diplomatic restraints—ceasing inspections and speeding up nuclear operations as retaliation.

6. Regime resilience or collapse
Iran holds together through nationalistic unity, using asymmetric tools while avoiding defeat .
Alternatively, regime fracturing—major domestic dissent could cause concessions or leadership change.


I think option 1 is the most realistic. Iran cannot sustain a war of attrition with Israel, especially when its oil refineries and oil and gas shipments are under constant threat.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Nothing personal but I think an official from A UN body is more qualified and trusted as a source over some rando on a defence forum.

Are you sure about that?

Sometimes, the drugged-out homeless person behind the local mini-mart makes more sense than some of the UN-types.

 

[PK781]

If Iran is going to keep hitting israeli targets, it needs to fully destroy their important assets......like the Haifa port completely, knock out properly their power grid/infrastructures and things like desalination plants, food depots and etc.
Throwing a bunch of missiles that just hit some concrete isn't going to do much in long run. Iran needs to ensure all those zions flee the illegal land they occupy.
Hit Dimona power plant too. Knock out the power.

Not sure how iran is thinking and if they even want to do that. Not sure what their leadership is thinking. They should've completely flattened haifa and big cities and infrastructure of israel by now in retaliation.
Obviously we're not sure of their tactics or how much they willing to go after.
Hopefully its not for domestic consumption only.

 

[Cicero]

There's also the possibility that Iran downplays the damage so they do not have to carry out a strong retaliatory strike against U.S assets in the region. This has already happened before after the assassination of Soleimani and after October 2024 when Israel struck against numerous air-defense installations that later proved important 8 months later...