Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

WTF IS IRAN DOING? Why are they firing missiles at Israel after accepting a ceasefire? This is all so weird!!!!

Coup d’état: A sudden, illegal takeover of a government, usually by the military or a small group.

 

[Watandar]

If news of Iranian launches are true, then it was necessary. Iran needs to pound these Israelis hard until the last minute of the ceasefire. It must throw everything it has at Israel and inflicted enough pain to deter the Israelis from launching another adventure in a few months or years time.

 

[RescueRanger]

Saving this headline for later:

It's going to age well...

 

[Jango007]

From my perspective, this was a marginal but significant win for Iran.

Despite the repeated assassinations of its nuclear scientists and direct attacks on key facilities, Iran’s nuclear program remains alive. It may have taken a huge bit, but it’s far from defeated. The infrastructure, the expertise, and the will to rebuild still exist.

One of the most important outcomes is that there was no regime change. Let’s be honest, that was a key objective for Israel and possibly its Western allies. The Iranian leadership remains intact, and the public stood firm despite the immense psychological and strategic pressure. Iran not only survived the decapitation strikes, it managed to rally support both internally and from key regional players like Pakistan and China.

However, survival alone is not enough. Iran must now learn and move swiftly. Sole reliance on air defense systems is proving insufficient. Israel’s domination of Iran’s airspace during the attacks exposed a major vulnerability. Iran urgently needs to develop an air force modeled after Pakistan’s not for power projection, but to deny air superiority and control its skies.

On the ground, Iran must overhaul its missile warfare doctrine. Its land-to-land tactics need modernization. A faster, more agile shoot-and-scoot capability is critical. During recent exchanges, Iran’s responses were sluggish, and the frequency of missile volleys diminished over time after its launchers were frequently targeted. That’s a weakness adversaries will exploit.

Strategically, Iran needs to reassess its alliances. India’s neutral stance and diplomatic tightrope walking show that it will not offer Iran any tangible support in times of crisis. Even Russia, with its strong Israeli diaspora and shifting priorities, is unreliable. Iran’s best hope lies in deepening ties with China and Pakistan. Both nations offer strategic depth economically, militarily, and diplomatically that Iran sorely needs.

And above all, Iran must prioritize the development of a nuclear deterrent. I don’t know how they will do it, but they must. The time for hesitation is over. National survival is now on the line. The events of this conflict should serve as the final wake-up call: Israel will strike again and next time, it will be more decisive, more intense, and possibly existential.

Iran barely made it through this round. There might not be a second chance. I hope the leadership wakes up to this.

Most comprehensive, levelled and accurate assesment I have read so far...

 

[mangekyo]

That's possible, but one or two is not enough to decide an entire states policy for 40 years. And who are you referring to (counter mossad)? Who are you talking about!

Head of Iranian unit countering Mossad was Israeli agent, says ex-president Ahmadinejad​

Head of Iranian unit countering Mossad was Israeli agent, says ex-president Ahmadinejad | The Times of Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[gambit]

Buddy, my loathing for Israel is based on...

I do not care. What have you DONE or willing to DO?

That is why for those of us who actually served, as in our lives are on the line someways somehow sometime, we tend to look askance at those who talks tough, like how YOU are doing against Israel.

Am willing to bet dollars to dirt that if YOU ever meet an IDF soldier, YOU would be too chickenshid to do anything.

 

[Jango007]

I swear if they are all intercepts what was even the point?

What if one missile actually hits their nuclear plant this time )))

 

[MLK!]

Maybe deciding to punish Israel in the last minutes? with very fast missiles.

the deadline was over an hour ago - at least, but i guess israel struck after the deadline. I don't know anymore man.

 

[SolarWarden]

Iran and Isreal still got 40+ minutes left might as well get in a few bit** slaps before zero hour.

 

[Shakehands]

I swear if they are all intercepts what was even the point?

exactly it would be the dumbest move .

 

[ToddE]

Majority of initial wave came from inside Iran , the folks running mini drone factories , Israel ran the news that it has penetrated Iran Air defences

The tactics used were similar to ones used against Russia when their bomber fleet was destroyed , so who ever planned the Iran mini drone attacks was also behind Russia attack (Ukraine-Israel connection)

I think contrary to believe planes flew from Israel I think GCC countries did provide bases to USA and planes may have flown from there in night time

Iran did destroyed most of Israeli airports so likely some assets may have been relocated to bases in Saudia-Qatar-Kuwait-Jordan or Oman used by USA

All good technical points. Opposing sides do war time propaganda, its all part of the tacticical package. Just by pure evidence or lack of it: Israeli Air Force flying freely over Iran = Iranian AD downing F-35s. BS claims from both sides with out shred of evidence.

Reality is that 12th day into the conflict and the only time we have actual evidence of Manned jet activity over Iran is F-15 jettisoning its fuel tanks twice (once west of Isfahan) and when Spice PGMs were launched on Tehran. F-15 activity near Isfahan makes sense because a very linear air corridor exists from Israel over Jordan into Southern Iraq where planes can easily fly in terrain masks to avoid OTHs searching them. Why would Israel need to get into Iran when they can easily launch accurate SOWs safely and fuel efficiently from unguarded Iraqi airspace ? This is the reason we have no actual videos of jets flying over Iran like in Syria, Iraq, Ukraine etc

Because IRI is a stupid system run by priests, they just failed to catch the local sleeper cells run by enemy that are still launching drones, ATGMs from inside Iran.

 

[mangekyo]

Trump says ceasefire will last forever. wtf does that mean?

 

[Jango007]

Imagine some commander fell asleep woke up and pushed the button not realizing Trump is celebrating his upcoming Nobel Peace prize award...

 

[Watandar]

I do not care. What have you DONE or willing to DO?

That is why for those of us who actually served, as in our lives are on the line someways somehow sometime, we tend to look askance at those who talks tough, like how YOU are doing against Israel.

Am willing to bet dollars to dirt that if YOU ever meet an IDF soldier, YOU would be too chickenshid to do anything.

You have to care, as your views on Israel are warped and you are excusing their hundred years of killing of Muslims, Christians and others. Your taunts about me personally are idiotic as we are strangers on the internet. You served in the military ? good for you, probably useless service in another failed war like all wars since WW2. You serving a losing war is not my fault and neither does it mean now you blindly support Israeli aggressors and war criminals.

 

[MLK!]

I want to sleep, man. I have a job and children.