Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khansaheeb]

I think lran needs free and fair elections and let the people decide what type of government they want.
All the Iranians living abroad in luxury should be allowed to return and stand in the elections. Nobody will vote for them and the "crown prince " should drop the notion that the Phelvi dynasty will be restored to its former glory (sic)

You want Netanyahu to be President of Iran?

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Thats because hitting soft central tel aviv spots has a better desired effect numbnuts……have you not seen thousands of european zios leaving to go back home to europe.

As a fabricated entity this exposes more of their faultlines. More of their soft underbelly.

No matter how many military targets are hit, cucks like you and your countrymen will pay the price of replenishing those military losses as daddy comes to the rescue . Thats the not to say specific military targets havent been hit, that is clear for all to see.

Not content with support from the arabs the europeans, and Nato, Americans to help with AD , you know are begging the americans to intervene

What a pathetic state you are in

He is not American, but a little Vietnamese guy.

 

[Musings]

Dear Iranian cousins who stood firm and fought with the most honourable of intentions, giving their lives in defence of their homeland and for freedom, my personal opinion is that the tit-for-tat material damage done will largely be repaired or renewed on both sides.

Beyond that, the conflict has had some positive outcomes - Israeli and right wing Christian Zionist mythology has been crushed. These people are not invincible in the slightest. They have several powerful tools at their disposal, but are not immune to justice.

Iran has also demonstrated a ferocious ability to stand independently. Nobody actually helped them in any significant way. Pakistan simply couldn't. Iranian proxies had already been neutered. Russia may as well have been non-existent.

This was Israel's best possible time to strike but it failed its main objective of regime collapse.

I would still argue though, despite all that, if the terms of this ceasefire somehow allow Israel or USA to conduct raids at their pleasure, then the final outcome is a loss for Iran - I hope the reports are indeed false that any such dispensation exists.

Now, Iran must make some serious decisions that will aid its survival and rejuvenation. This starts with the purging of hostile nations from its national interest - the role of India should not be ignored in this regard. Whatever was going on in your minds regarding ancient ties is mere obfuscation of ground realities. None of your ancient history matters one jot. Indeed, Pakistanis are also mostly of Iranic descent - we could equally use this as some narrative. The English and the Germans are near identical but that didn't stop them slaughtering each other. Give up the cultural ties hasbara once and for all.

I see absolutely no future for Delhi in Iran's national consciousness after today, neither functionally, nor on a "transactional" basis. A decisive tilt towards the Sino-Pak axis is long overdue. Hopefully the leadership have figured this out.

They will decide what a fwend india is and will be.
In the meantime Irans work starts today - recover expand and sort out its defense asap. Pick its allies and strengthen its borders. They fulled something out of the hat that no one has and battered israel

 

[Khansaheeb]

Which makes ceasefire dumb. Israel will recover

Ceasefire won't last long; going by precedence Israel has broken every past ceasefire agreement. It has run out ammo and once it gets the next shipments the ceasefire will be broken.

 

[Brutal.]

Iran must buy minimum 300 J10 C and around 150 J35 on Emergency basis with long range air defence systems from China along with their satellite system

Some PL-17s and extreme pilot training as well.

 

[Tamerlane]

Americans face a choice. They need to decide if they’re going to continue being slaves of 15 million Jews and keep fighting 2 billion Muslims forever. That’s 25%+ of the world’s population.

America is bankrupt today because they spent the last 40 years killing millions of Muslims. Their debt went up by over $10 trillion and that time was used by China to become the number one superpower in manufacturing and technology.

America is controlled by 6.2 million Jews and spends all its energy keeping a genocidal Jewish ethno-fascist colony going. It’s much cheaper to give the 7.3 million settlers citizenship and move them to America and Europe.

With the Jew problem solved they can concentrate on making America great again.

 

[Mobius]

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[Garcia Sea]

Another surprise attack by Israel and the United States will take place in the very near future.
That is precisely why Israel and the U.S. agreed to a ceasefire without presenting clear conditions. This is a common tactic used by aggressors to dismantle the defensive side's wartime posture and prevent them from launching a counterattack.

Generally, when combat continues uninterrupted for over a month, the defensive side becomes increasingly adapted to warfare, and the advantage of the attacking side rapidly diminishes. Therefore, the aggressor side will dangle the prospect of a false ceasefire during this critical period, using every means possible.

If the defensive side falls for this, they will inevitably face harsher peace terms imposed after the fact, as well as further large-scale surprise attacks once the aggressor's forces have been reorganized.

This time, there is an absolute deadline of October due to the sunset clause in the JCPOA.
At the latest by September, and possibly as early as July or August, a genuine war of aggression—uncomparable to the current situation—will begin.

 

[Cash gk]

Some PL-17s and extreme pilot training as well.

They must buy around 200 JF 17 as well

 

[Master Chief]

Iran must make some serious decisions that will aid its survival and rejuvenation. This starts with the purging of hostile nations from its national interest - the role of India should not be ignored in this regard. Whatever was going on in your minds regarding ancient ties is mere obfuscation of ground realities. None of your ancient history matters one jot. Indeed, Pakistanis are also mostly of Iranic descent - we could equally use this as some narrative. The English and the Germans are near identical but that didn't stop them slaughtering each other. Give up the cultural ties hasbara once and for all.

I see absolutely no future for Delhi in Iran's national consciousness after today, neither functionally, nor on a "transactional" basis. A decisive tilt towards the Sino-Pak axis is long overdue. Hopefully the leadership have figured this out.

 

[Kambojaric]

A ceasefire only makes sense for Iran if it intends to do something about US/Israeli air dominance during the ceasefire period.

Otherwise the momentum is with Iran as it can tolerate much more pain than the Israelis can. Giving Israel the opportunity to restock the Iron Done when it's precision has dropped to about 40-60% is a gods send for Bibi.

However Tehran should be under no illusion (as it will be totally aware) that ceasefires hold no value for the Israelis, and as soon as they are replenished they will start attacking Iran again.

 

[Cash gk]

Another surprise attack by Israel and the United States will take place in the very near future.
That is precisely why Israel and the U.S. agreed to a ceasefire without presenting clear conditions. This is a common tactic used by aggressors to dismantle the defensive side's wartime posture and prevent them from launching a counterattack.

Generally, when combat continues uninterrupted for over a month, the defensive side becomes increasingly adapted to warfare, and the advantage of the attacking side rapidly diminishes. Therefore, the aggressor side will dangle the prospect of a false ceasefire during this critical period, using every means possible.

If the defensive side falls for this, they will inevitably face harsher peace terms imposed after the fact, as well as further large-scale surprise attacks once the aggressor's forces have been reorganized.

This time, there is an absolute deadline of October due to the sunset clause in the JCPOA.
At the latest by September, and possibly as early as July or August, a genuine war of aggression—uncomparable to the current situation—will begin.

They must sign strategic deal with China. Similar to Chinese deal with Pakistan.

 

[Fatman17]

You want Netanyahu to be President of Iran?

I didn't say that

 

[ShapurII]

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Are these tears even real? She sounds constipated too.

At some point, she says a few words that sound Slavic. They're probably Russian or Ukraine, or maybe Polish. I'm sure our Slavic members can spot the language.

 

[OldTwilight]

A ceasefire only makes sense for Iran if it intends to do something about US/Israeli air dominance during the ceasefire period.

Otherwise the momentum is with Iran as it can tolerate much more pain than the Israelis can. Giving Israel the opportunity to restock the Iron Done when it's precision has dropped to about 40-60% is a gods send for Bibi.

However Tehran should be under no illusion (as it will be totally aware) that ceasefires hold no value for the Israelis, and as soon as they are replenished they will start attacking Iran again.

Probably there are promise from China and Russia to help Iran rebuild and re-organize AD network as fast as possible ...

I hope IR doesn't get played by others again