Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[krash]

Bro, you're the think tank. Maybe you'll have all the details after doing a thorough research?

You don't know what's in there but want us to go to war over it on behalf of a country that will sell you down the river in a jiffy? The Saudis can put their defense where their mouth is and ask the US and India for help. Or only pick fights against those that they can handle; starving, helpless nations such as Yemen.

A defense collaboration pact is not a mutual defense agreement. You have defense collaboration agreements with a dozen countries.

 

[R2D2]

Comparison of Chinese aircraft with US aircraft. Iran

 

[ShapurII]

I believe the regime change is still on the agenda, it's just been postponed for now.
But that shouldn't surprise anybody.

 

[mangekyo]

 

[Meengla]

No we owe them nothing and again - Iran is not a brother like China. It’s not our responsibility to correct the mistakes Iran made over the years regarding their defence. Furthermore, they are massively undermined by Israeli spies, who knows if we are welcoming several Israeli and RAW agents when we train them? PK‘s security is our priority, not Iran‘s. Better safe than sorry.

A little news for you: Pakistan too is undermined by spies.
You can't deny other countries' pilots to train in Pakistan because of espionage fears. Firstly, very limited number will come to Pakistan and those who would be vetted by their respective govts. Secondly, they would not be training in the high tech IADSs unless really really vetted. And already interns from many countries train in Pakistan.
Having said that, Iran needs to set its strategic posture right first. They were too spooked by Pakistan-America ties which are really for trade/commerce. Speaking of which, Pakistan risks crippling sanctions if it cozies to Iran too much. That's Pakistan's real Achilles Heel: Its economy, which too many here lazily forget.

 

[mangekyo]

This was clearly a defeat for the Zionist empire, but their ability to quickly recover with backing from the whole world is worrying. Especially now that it’s evident Iran has absolutely no allies. No one willing to come to its aids. Ziona will rebuild way faster than Iran, and they will be back. I hope we are prepared when the time comes

 

[vmro]

Is trying to scare Iran? -Hey don’t drop the n bomb or H bomb?

When I am watching Pahlavi now, foundation of instant organization that could be temporarily governor of Iran, his concept about economy, he as the king of kings but with majlis as most powerful body...difference comparable only with Juliani of Syria before and after his terrorist phase...

I think zionist really were sure that with first punch, Iran would so chaotic that wil lead to chance to install Pahvali...but that had to be supersonic fast operation, taking advantage of initial shock and panics...

Now chance is missed and Bibi still cant accept reality, while Trump cant waste resources on doomed project...

 

[BigMela2onin]

 

[GWXP]

It took Iran just 3 years to construct the entire Fordow enrichment facility from scratch between 2006 and 2009.

That cosmetic damage made by US B-2 bombers can be fixed in couple of months.

 

[mangekyo]

When I am watching Pahlavi now, foundation of instant organization that could be temporarily governor of Iran, his concept about economy, he as the king of kings but with majlis as most powerful body...difference comparable only with Juliani of Syria before and after his terrorist phase...

I think zionist really were sure that with first punch, Iran would so chaotic that wil lead to chance to install Pahvali...but that had to be supersonic fast operation, taking advantage of initial shock and panics...

Now chance is missed and Bibi still cant accept reality, while Trump cant waste resources on doomed project...

I think Reza is in on it with the west, they are just using him to cause unrest in Iran and justify their attacks by claiming there is a rightful opposition who has a claim to the throne.

I refuse to believe Reza would have the balls to step foot inside Iran no matter the situation

 

[Meengla]

The Arab coalition surrendered in 6 days.
Iran has stood for 12 days against Israel + the U.S., two nuclear powers backed by NATO bases, U.S. weapons, and Western intelligence.
They hit Iran with everything and Iran hit back harder than anyone ever has.
Just like in the Iran–Iraq war, the whole West stood against Iran. And still, Iran didn’t fall.
It’s time Muslim leaders grew a spine.
Reject the U.S.-led order.
Join the resistance.

Hezbollah, Gazans and Yemenis are also 'Arabs' but they are not coward. Syrians too stood their ground against Israel for decades. So it is not fair to label all Arabs as coward.
As to joining 'the resistance': Give Pakistan free oil and gas and then maybe. You guys don't know the vulnerabilities of Pakistan which, IMO, no other country in the world has been facing for nearly 8 decades.
Still.. Kudos to Iran and its people. Your star is going to rise as I see you a clear victor in this conflict.

 

[tsunset]

 

[ShapurII]

It took Iran just 3 years to construct the entire Fordow enrichment facility from scratch between 2006 and 2009.

That cosmetic damage made by US B-2 bombers can be fixed in couple of months.

Fordow itself, even if successfully destroyed, is not the problem. We already have another site in Qazvin, nearly 200 meters underground. Even better than Fordow and more immune against bunker busters.

The problem is our centrifuges. The ICAC at Natanz has been destroyed. So, we can't build new centrifuges for a while.

 

[tsunset]

Hope our oil will be paid with some J-10CE/JF-17B3 in big numbers

 

[Nuffle]

As expected, Israel just broke the ceasefire and bombed Iran. And Iran, instead of retaliating, has declared its commitment to upholding the ceasefire.
This means Israel can now bomb Iran freely at any time without fear of retaliation.
Iran has been put in the same position as Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria.
This is exactly why I said Iran should never accept the ceasefire.
From now on, Israel will regularly bomb Iran’s radar systems, missile sites, and factories, decisively weakening Iran.
This is the reality of the ceasefire you all welcomed.
It’s over. As long as Iran accepts this, its destruction is absolutely inevitable.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has already said that if Iran resumes its nuclear program, Israel will strike immediately, and he said that from now on, he will treat Iran the same way he treats Lebanon, with periodic strikes to ensure that the country does not regain its offensive and defensive capabilities.

Iran, seen just a few days ago as a great and powerful power in the Gulf, has now been reduced to a “Lebanon”, incapable of even defending itself from air strikes. Impressive!