Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
US intelligence estimates:

- Much of Iran's nuclear program remains intact, and the program was only delayed by a few months

- Iran has secret nuclear sites that were not attacked and remain operational (Natanz-2, Qazvin...)

- The strikes did not successfully destroy the centrifuges or uranium at Fordow
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Trump is not going to revisit Fordow regardless of any feedback. As far as he is concerned, everything was destroyed and that is the end of it.
 
❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇷 BREAKING: The U.S. strikes on Iran's nuclear sites did NOT destroy the core components of Iran's nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early U.S. intelligence assessment.

Two people familiar with the assessment said Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed. Furthermore, one of the people said that Iran's uranium enrichment centrifuges are 'intact'. – CNN

The "delayed by 10 years" is probably Israeli hasbara for internal audience
 
Cash gk said:
Agree. But Pakistan’s Air Force is one hell of a thing.
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Yes, we can help with their air force, and act as a bridge with China. Iran’s relationship with China is what will benefit them the most.

Also, Pakistan can try to create some kind of partnership that includes Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey. Also, help them improve relations with Arab countries.

There’s a lot Pakistan can do if they trust us.
 
mangekyo said:
Both of you are right and wrong. IF Iran manages to recover before Israel launches another attack. It's a HUGE win for Iran, and imo the West has to agree that Iran is a major power in the region for good. This wasn’t Iran vs. Israel. It was Iran vs. Israel + NATO and US backing. It was Iran vs. the collective west through sanctions. We have shown twice that no matter how much they unite against us, we will not break. I've never been more proud to be Iranian
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Of course, but keep up the guard for sure, every time Iran was caught off guard and distracted by nice looking stories...although I don't understand how on the earth they planned to finish all jobs in few days, and next morning Iranians are wakeup to watch daily speech of their king of kings, Pahlavi, who announces Israel as first county to visit after coronation ..

They literally expected that such decapitation and power would make Afghanistan from Iran...

Amateurs, after all; pointless all that tactical brilliance when their strategy is doomed from the very beginning...
 
Netanyahu launched a war on Iran, vowing to destroy their nuclear program and topple the regime.

12 days later, the nuclear program is untouched. The regime? Stronger than ever.

Israel, meanwhile, lies in ruins. Entire neighborhoods turned to ash. Tens of thousands displaced. Civilians stuck in shelters. Lives lost. And for what?

He promised security. He delivered chaos.
He promised victory. He brought humiliation.
He promised a safer future. He made the world far more dangerous for Israelis.

Maybe it’s not Tehran that needs regime change. Maybe it’s Tel Aviv?
 
Cash gk said:
To all those criticizing Iran for not achieving anything significant—just watch this.

This is not a civilian. This is Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, standing in front of a camera, almost pleading with the world—showing off damaged buildings and debris like a helpless victim.

Can you even believe a man leading a “nuclear-armed regional power” is crying on camera like this?
This is what Iran managed to do, despite sanctions, isolation, and global pressure.

Still think Iran didn’t achieve anything? Watch.

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I got the sense he was talking about himself and his own evil regime
 
US and Israel intentionally made these cosmetic strikes to put pressure on Iran and force it to make concessions on broad range of issues that include nuclear program and regional geopolitics.

US and Israel knew that if they fully destroy Iranian nuclear program or kill Khamenei, Iranian reaction will be disproportionate and highly damaging.

Israel also killed IRGC hardliners who were key pillars of the regime hoping that this will create internal crisis within the Iranian system, but these killed IRGC generals have been replaced by other IRGC hardliners and the system survived and showed strong resilience.

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Iran: 610 killed, 4,746 injured (total: 5,356)

Israel: 29 killed, 3,238 injured (total: 3,267)
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This is with data based on NETANYAHU's information blackout, in other words, it is yet another narrative.
 
My own worldview is that of Prof. Jeffrey Sachs: The global pie is big enough for all to feast on it. While this 17 minute video is well worth watching, after minute 5 he brings up the role of Pakistan as country which is into 'Islamic Causes' and also has the nukes potentially available to Iran. He is an impassioned 'humanist' like I'd like to believe I too am.

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Pakistan Space Agency said:
The Pakistani Parliament passed a resolution to defend Saudi Arabia! The only country under Pakistan's nuclear umbrella!

In regards to what's there for us? Well, there are at least 2.7 million Pakistanis for a start.
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What does that resolution state? In what ways will Pakistan defend them, in which cases, to what extent, and until when? Is the resolution binding?

We should force war on 220 million for 2.7 million at the behest of a regime that's forgotten its place? The Americans and Indians can defend them or the Saudis can take a hike. Our 2.7 mill will return home, as they did from Iran and Ukraine.
 
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