Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[vmro]

I’d guess most of the Indians who support Iran are probably Muslims.

Indians are by far most numerous internet users, so anything you can see in their comments..

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

I’d guess most of the Indians who support Iran are probably Muslims.

Not exactly. As mentioned, many Indians are divided in their views because they believe neither side is entirely innocent. While the spotlight is on Israel, the conflict runs deeper—it's largely fueled by Iran’s support for non-state actors operating beyond its borders. The nuclear talk often serves as a distraction. Many believe that if Iran had not chosen to engage through proxies, this war might have been avoided altogether.

What’s happening in Palestine is tragic, but Iran’s approach stands apart. Unlike other Muslim-majority countries that have chosen to play it safe, avoiding direct confrontation with the U.S. and Israel, Iran has taken a hardline stance—and it’s paying the price for going it alone. Israel may be the visible front in this conflict, but for many indians, the real driving force remains the United States.

At the same time, public opinion in India is mixed. Many feel a cultural and historical closeness to Iran, given its geographic proximity and deep-rooted ties. Conversely, Israel enjoys strong goodwill in India for its reliable support during critical moments, particularly in defense, intelligence, and crisis response.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[Watandar]

You know what is sad? After all that's been said and done during this conflict, I'm still not 100% sure if the Iranian leadership will acquire nuclear weapons. I don't trust them at all. It feels like they're looking for an excuse to not go all the way. What are they scared of? What is the end goal? What is the strategy here?

Goal was to use nukes as leverage to remove sanctions, while still being able to use peaceful nuclear energy. The sanctions have ruined the economy.Gambit did not work.

 

[Hayabusa]

Depending upon the initial penetration depth and explosion followed by the second bomb's penetration and explosion depth, there is the potential the vibrations alone were sufficient to damage the centrifuges.

While I acknowledge that Iran has made some critical missteps during the war, I firmly believe that, in accordance with their protocols, they would have already ceased enrichment activities and moved as much of their centrifuges and uranium out of the facility as possible once the war started. Thats a week time worth before the Fodrow facility was attacked.

More importantly, emerging reports suggest that the nuclear program has only been set back by a few months at most. This indicates that the Fordow facility was not obliterated as claimed and that Iran still has the capacity to recover from this blow.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[vmro]

You know what is sad? After all that's been said and done during this conflict, I'm still not 100% sure if the Iranian leadership will acquire nuclear weapons. I don't trust them at all. It feels like they're looking for an excuse not to go all the way. What are they scared of? What is the end goal? What is the strategy here?

They are "scared" that after Iran, Erdogan and MBS would be first eager to get it for them, so toxicity will be paralyzing to regional dynamic...
But we see that Israelis effectively dismantled Shia project of IR, and Iran, in the end, is alone with gutsy Yemeni to fight decisive battle with Israelis...

So that strategic edge is no more possible, Turkey alone could block access to Beirut for Iranian frenemis..

The logical step now is getting the bomb, but in silence, behind the scenes..

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[Bengal71]

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Is this real? Trump is one hell of a guy.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[SolarWarden]

He's safe politically for now.

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Next few weeks is going to make or break him... I know very cliche line but F-it.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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[Kyussis]

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Ayatollah Khamenei does not tweet!!!

 

[j_hungary]

While I acknowledge that Iran has made some critical missteps during the war, I firmly believe that, in accordance with their protocols, they would have already ceased enrichment activities and moved as much of their centrifuges and uranium out of the facility as possible once the war started. Thats a week time worth before the Fodrow facility was attacked.

More importantly, emerging reports suggest that the nuclear program has only been set back by a few months at most. This indicates that the Fordow facility was not obliterated as claimed and that Iran still has the capacity to recover from this blow.

Depends on where progress has been.

There are two bottlenecks for Nuclear Weapon development. Enrichment and Miniturisation

The first bottleneck is for a country to enrich over 60% ENU, you need 85+ to make nuclear weapon, but the key stage is 60, because that is the magic number to separate between U235 and U238. If you had achieve that, then from 60-85 would be a lot easier because you already get past that stage.

The second bottleneck comes with minturisation of warhead, because you can't put a giant fission seperator on a missile, that only have a limited space, unless you are putting it like WW2 style airdroppable bomb, which limited your range, you need to make the entire things from the cake to the trigger mechanism smaller that you can fit into a missile.

THe first stage will take you decades unless someone teraches you how to do it, Soviet Union takes 4 years to enrich to that level because of the scientist deflection to Soviet Union after WW2. As oppose to North Korea, which had taken almost 30 years.

The second stage can take you a few years to a decade or so, that is something even North Korea can't even do for now.

So depends on what status is the Iranian nuclear program, a few month set back can be large if they are in pre-60% enrichment, or it could be a small gap to fill if they had already go past 60%.

 

[vmro]

He's safe politically for now.

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Next few weeks is going to make or break him... I know very cliche line but F-it.

Probably first days of aggression, now is getting the price for being cuck loser, give us numbers for days from tomorrow onward...

I don't expect anything special from any new government, but he should be loser as a symbol of sinister approach and cruelty in political purposes, still, with disastrous finish ..

Ayatollah Khamenei does not tweet!!!

That is same tweet that Elon Musk tweeted to Trump, just faked with Ayatollah instead of Musk...