Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khorasan Black Flags]

JCPOA by rouhani & zarif is reason of this war, and weakness of resistance axis

 

[GWXP]

So what is next?

According to non proliferation expert Jeffrey Lewis Iran still has 408kg of HEU and IR-6 centrifuges and it will take Iran 5 month to build 9 nuclear bombs by enriching in secret locations.

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Iran reduced its relations with the IAEA and now no one can monitor Iranian nuclear program.

Iran should make a rush to the bomb.

US options:

1) attack suspected secret locations - but US doesn't know where they are and Iran will respond by attacking US military bases in the region and this will escalate into a full-scale war US wants to avoid, and if Iran starts losing the war, it will switch to striking first Kuwaiti, then Qatari, then UAE and then Saudi oil facilities and closing the Strait of Hormuz. Also new US attacks against suspected secret enrichment facilities will be ineffective, because US has no intelligence on these facilities and these facilities are located deep underground.

2) attack Iran's military infrastructure - but it is unclear how this will prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons and if US attacks Iran's military then Iran will strike US bases in the region and this will escalate into a full-scale war, and if Iran starts losing, it will strike Gulf oil facilities and close the Strait of Hormuz.

3) attack Iranian leaders - but if US kills Khamenei, Iran's reaction will be disproportionate and the entire region will be in flames and oil infrastructure will be destroyed.

4) attack suspected secret enrichment facilities + attack Iran's military infrastructure + attack Iranian leaders = full scale war with Houthis closing the Red Sea, Hezbollah attacking Israel, Shia militias of Iraq attacking US bases in Iraq and Kuwait and Iran attacking US bases in the Gulf, oil infrastructure of the region and closing the Strait of Hormuz.

5) use nuclear weapons against Iran - but if US breaks the taboo and uses nuclear weapons against non nuclear power like Iran, this will destroy entire global security architecture, and other non-nuclear powers like Brazil or Argentina for example, will seek to obtain nuclear weapons to protect themselves. Also Russia will then have a right to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine and China in Taiwan.

So as you can see, beyond cosmetic strikes, US has no any good options of preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons. All serious US actions against Iran end with a global oil crisis that will create enormous damage to global economy in general and US economy in particular, because if oil of the Gulf is offline US economy will be rolled back by 5 years and federal debt will increase by 4trln$.

 

[ShapurII]

I did not see it can anyone explain what it was?

A Belarussian Jew at Sheremetyevo Airport in Russia assaults an 18 month-old Iranian child by lifting him up and dropping him on his head. The child is in comma now with a fractured skull and spinal injury.

 

[VCheng]

Iran should get it and for whatever reason, they're not getting it and even giving Fatwa against it.

So either get it or just totally give up everything remotely linked to the nuclear program, even if its peaceful.

Well, that is a decision for the Iranian leadership to make, whether to continue with its past policies in this regard, or plot out a new direction. Both option have pros and cons, of course.

Continuing past policies will invite similar counters to the efforts which have been quite destructive. Plotting a new direction will involve a huge political gamble of acknowledging that past policies have been disastrous in their outcomes.

Not an easy choice to make IMO.

 

[PakAl]

How long it will take to make 100 JF-17 Thunder block III?
Pakistan can produce 24 / year going full bore and has to supply PAF and Azerbaijan.
These would have to come from China.

It will take a few years ofcourse, during this current war even if Iran had F35s they would have been destroyed on the ground or in the underground bases, for 18 hours Iran was under attack. 100 Jf17s are just optimism, reality is Usa EU GCC Israel will not allow it.

 

[JonAsad]

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Motherfucker. These animals needs to be obliterated

 

[Hack-Hook]

It is narrow view, your close connections with india is main obstacle with close military connections with china, you need badly some modern hardware, your dollars made with indians are wortlhless if you can not transfer them into concrete assets.
severing ties with india in exchange making closer connections with pakistan and china is no brainer.

In my humble view USA influence in your country play a bigger role.
Pakistan ties with PGCC which have a tighter relation with India is a lot closer than it's relation with iran

 

[PakFactor]

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Disgusting. Praying for the child, and hoping that Jew rots in jail.

 

[JonAsad]

Disgusting. Praying for the child, and hoping that Jew rots in jail.

Does Russian jails have raping culture? specially for child abusers?

I remember american jails are notorious for that.

I wish him painfull death ever and am happy that in Jahannam he will have worst fate.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

I did not see it can anyone explain what it was?

I've not watched it after reading the comment first.

I can't stomach this sort of stuff against children.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

If Russia and China were to form a New alliance with 7 Permanent members while 10 additional members as observers and 15 members as partner.
Which 7 members should be permanent members with veto power?

 

[PakAl]

I have nothing to say.

I mentioned this before. They will continue to act as before. Good luck to them I say.

 

[PakAl]

I believe we should reduce our ties with Russia.
I even mentioned why, in an earlier post, that Putin said two things that completely invalidated all their claims of friendship with Iran:

1. Putin said that many Israelis were Russian-speaking people and Russia considers this in their relations with Israel (i.e. we see Israel as a brotherly nation)
2. Putin said that Russia-Israel relations were based on mutual trust (i.e. we will never do something that is against the interests of Israel)

Also, Russian exported equipment have performed quite poorly against Israel. Russia cannot be trusted. I think at this point, the only country that we can truly trust is North Korea.

Why only Russia? India didn't even condemn Israel in the first SCO meeting, 2nd meeting they didn't attend so why single out Russia, even though Russia condemned Israel in both meetings and supported Iran in UN.

 

[Farhan23]

could you explain that in bit detail, I cant understand what you have said!

Who do you think has access to facilites after striking? Not a ragtag agent he would obviously be killed but a ranked invididual within Iran military

 

[ShapurII]

Why only Russia? India didn't even condemn Israel in the first SCO meeting, 2nd meeting they didn't attend so why single out Russia, even though Russia condemned Israel in both meetings and supported Iran in UN.

Because we have a strategic partnership with Russia, I mean literally, we have a treaty on comprehensive strategic partnership with Russia, we have extensive military ties with Russia, we have extensive economic ties with Russia. None of these are true about India.

Iranian–Russian Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership - Wikipedia

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