Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khansaheeb]

Half of Tel-Aviv Destroyed by Iran?:

 

[mulj]

Judging from the opinions of many Iranian posters, I think they want Iran to remain strategically independent as much as possible as something similar to India. And I don't know if China wants to get entangled in Iran's affairs albeit only externally.

And it is nothing bad, frankly in essence it is up to China to estimate is it worthy to sell iranians goodies, it is more mixture of trust between two parties and tangible geopolitical interests then a formal treaty which could be burden and the trust is two way street.
I would say go slow, offer them finger and if they do not go for whole arm proceed gradually.
Pakistan is also heavily compromised by western influence and yet that is not the obstacle for China to work closely with them, personally i think Iran has even higher importance than Pakistan for China long term interest but how to move from dead point zero upwards from current situation is above my pay grade.

 

[ety]

I think Iran has even higher importance than Pakistan for China long term interest but how to move from dead point zero upwards from current situation is above my pay grade.

Pakistan is an important strategic neighbor of China connected by land that directly affects China's national security. Unless China like the US is bend on world or at least greater Asia domination, then Iran is likely going to be more important. But, I don't see that happening any time.

 

[mulj]

Pakistan is an important strategic neighbor of China connected by land that directly affects China's national security. Unless China like the US is bend on world or at least greater Asia domination, then Iran is likely going to be more important. But, I don't see that happening any time.

It is not about world domination, it is defending china borders far from borders, with Iran fall Pakistan will fall to probably and suddenly your underbelly is under sharp knife.

 

[vizier]

It is not about world domination, it is defending china borders far from borders, with Iran fall Pakistan will fall to probably and suddenly your underbelly is under sharp knife.

Trust will take time. Waiting too much like whole airforce items from China or waiting high concessions from Iran will degrade trust for both sides. Ofcoure Iran does not want to be stabbed in the back again just like j. stalin of Russia did last time not sending weapons and other cases everyone knows. Ccp is not one man controlled like Russia and has better checks-controls but still it will take time for both sides. Not giving too much concessions from Irans side should be understandable.

Iran should use domestic means and use Chinese equipment as a force multiplier not complete airforce package as Iran does not have resources and has to give too many concessions to China for that. Alternative gap closing measures like more production integration of Karrar A2a drones and makeshift awacs- Cargo-helicopter installed radars can be a stop gap measure.

Iran also needs to use its F5 fleet more effectively and produce more F5-Saegeh. Using mountainous terrain effectively and flying low can hide the planes from western flying awacs. F5 new variants have bvr but Irans are wvr variants. I dont know if Saegeh has bvr. They can integrate bvr into the mix as a further upgrade later on.

Karrar can be upgraded to stealth a2a variant valkyrie-vanguard copy later on. Helicopter awacs systems can be upgraded to stealth as well like Usa stealth black hawk airframe with a low rcs radar dome installed under it as an awacs modification. High performance like black hawk is not necessary as well as reduction of Ir-acoustic signature is not necessary for initial models. It will fly far with radar mission. It only needs to carry the radar to sufficient altitude and scan while fly.

 

[StrategicBear]

It is not about world domination, it is defending china borders far from borders, with Iran fall Pakistan will fall to probably and suddenly your underbelly is under sharp knife.

Yup, anyone who's played Chess knows we need to quickly strike at the enemy's weak underbelly to be able to threaten their King at checkmate ranges.

So, it's about China checkmating the enemy before the enemy can checkmate China, and this means they need to exploit the areas where the enemy can get bogged down(Middle East) so China can checkmate them where it matters(Taiwan and East Asia/Pacific)

 

[Hack-Hook]

Satellite operates just fine. It is the receiving end that gets confused by the jamming signal. Keep in mind that the jammer is much closer to the receiver than to the satellite.

iran once disturbed tv satellite over middle east so hard than even Jordan and KSA complained , don't tell , that was local jammers. at the time consensus was that Iran do that that by targeting disruptive signal directly at satellites

 

[ShapurII]

This is Israeli strategy Natanyahu talked about , chaos and frustration create among the people and add sanctions.

This isn't chaos and frustration. It shows people themselves are bringing the injured to the hospital to save time. It shows cooperation and unity.

 

[vizier]

iran once distrusted tv satellite over middle east so hard than even Jordan and KSA complained , don't tell , that was local jammers. at the time consensus was that Iran do that that by targeting disruptive signal directly at satellites

I watched somewhere that Ukraine also jam Russian glonass satellites directly instead of jamming each bomb individually.

 

[Hack-Hook]

could anybody guide me on what seems to be the target here?

bunch of car behind a red light and a residential building 200m behind them

 

[Persian Gulf]

beyond parody

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Xerxes22]

beyond parody

But he won't be assassinated unfortunately

 

[Persian Gulf]

what is there left to negotiate? these guys used negotiations to fool us and then bombed us directly barely a week ago and you are running to talk to them already?

 

[Persian Gulf]