Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

Very hard strike by Iran (reformist) against China and Russia ...
when China and Russia asked Iran to not accept Snapback mechanism (and they will support Iran to remove it) in JCPOA , Zarif and Rouhani didn't accept their offer ... Pezeshkian government remove the military part of Iran-Russia strategic treaty ...

Do you have credible proof of this claim?
Real proof from China or Russia? Or a person in government in those countries?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Finally, Russia makes her stand clear ...

Russia’s Lavrov: Russia ready to supply Iran with enriched uranium for peaceful nuclear use.

Is there a reliable source for this part?

 

[OldTwilight]

Do you have credible proof of this claim?
Real proof from China or Russia? Or a person in government in those countries?

Look like Iran really removed Military cooperation part from Iran-Russia treaty in Pezeshkian government.

 

[kastor ville]

Easy. Normalize relations with Israel. Recognize the state of Israel. Abandon all the support for resistance groups. Stop the nuclear program. Give 50% of Iranian oil to the US. Buy their crap and give complete monopoly of our 90 million people market to the West.

Why would they want to fight with us then? When they could get everything without a war. They fought for 12 days and the cost of it was over 8 billion dollars. They could get all of that for free without a bullet.

But the Ayatollahs are even too stupid for surrendering properly.

Obviously, we don't have to do anything drastic like that......All we need to do, is negotiate about enrichment.....it's our right, but when we have idiots running our country for decades, we have to come to terms we may need to give up something dear to us, even though it's wrong....why? Because these people have dug a hole for us.....for decades now.....we need dig out. As long as Iran is not broken up, we have not given Israel a win.
We need to preserve our country and our the integrity of our land.....if we do that we can dig out, in 10 yrs we can be a big economy again.
So, by hook or crook, we need to make sure, they don't break up our country and turn us into a failed state.

 

[OldTwilight]

Iran should once reply to these zionist Russians to shut up and purge the system from Russian spies. We can deliver 90% uranium for Russian submarines.

When Khamenei shoot us on the knee, what can we do!?

Fereydoon Abbasi was begging for making nukes while he knew he would be assassinated, but they used FATWA and didn't let him to do anything ....

 

[kastor ville]

So, what's alternative, enrich uranium, get sanction, get bombed for it then giving away uranium to Russia for free!?

If it was me, I would make Nuke and ICBM and even target USA B2 air base with Tactical nukes ... but there are so many cowards in power who don't dare to either move forward or backward ....

Sorry man, but your strategy will spell certain doom for Iran. Do you really think the US and the European will allow Iran to use nukes on the US and then leave one building standing in Iran? How many Iranians do you want to die? 85-90 million Iranians......your war plan will wipe 50 million Iranians, is that an acceptable cost to you? This isn't Fortnite.

 

[OldTwilight]

Obviously, we don't have to do anything drastic like that......All we need to do, is negotiate about enrichment.....it's our right, but when we have idiots running our country for decades, we have to come to terms we may need to give up something dear to us, even though it's wrong....why? Because these people have dug a hole for us.....for decades now.....we need dig out. As long as Iran is not broken up, we have not given Israel a win.
We need to preserve our country and our the integrity of our land.....if we do that we can dig out, in 10 yrs we can be a big economy again.
So, by hook or crook, we need to make sure, they don't break up our country and turn us into a failed state.

When after 47 years of I.R we have this kind of concerns , then that mean I.R failed badly

 

[OldTwilight]

Sorry man, but your strategy will spell certain doom for Iran. Do you really think the US and the European will allow Iran to use nukes on the US and then leave one building standing in Iran? How Iranians do you want to die? 85-90 million Iranians......your war plan will wipe 50 million Iranians, is that an acceptable cost to you? This isn't Fortnite.

That doesn't matter, this is escalation ladder, the last step is mutual destruction, if we blink, they will come and finish us. And USA has more to lose in this context than us (we already lost so much) ... And if we, Iran as 3500 years old country is going to go down, then we should make sure to take strongest empire of history to grave with ourselves.

 

[the saint]

Why do we care?
How does this affect our war with the US/Israel in any way?

your post is a junk.. Yemen has been very much part of the war and resistance.

 

[the saint]

 

[OldTwilight]

your post is a junk.. Yemen has been very much part of the war and resistance.

The equation is not equal , sinking one ship and losing a power plant in exchange is bad ...
at least they should target the zion power planet and refinery not Ben Gurion air base.

 

[ShapurII]

Obviously, we don't have to do anything drastic like that......All we need to do, is negotiate about enrichment.....it's our right, but when we have idiots running our country for decades, we have to come to terms we may need to give up something dear to us, even though it's wrong....why? Because these people have dug a hole for us.....for decades now.....we need dig out. As long as Iran is not broken up, we have not given Israel a win.
We need to preserve our country and our the integrity of our land.....if we do that we can dig out, in 10 yrs we can be a big economy again.
So, by hook or crook, we need to make sure, they don't break up our country and turn us into a failed state.

We need to emphasize our territorial integrity. Obviously, the US will not give up now that they see they have successfully destroyed our nuclear program and we do not intend to acquire nuclear weapons

The balance of power is extremely in their favor. We can never match their fire power. Israel has killed 1,100 Iranians in 12 days. How many Israelis did we kill?

If we are not going to acquire nuclear weapons, we should surrender. We should join the Abrahams Accord. Recognize the state of Israel. Maintain diplomatic and economic ties with Israel. Give meaningful guarantees to the US that we will never have a nuclear program again, except for nuclear reactors that they will build for us. Give them shares in our oil and gas infrastructure, minerals and rare earth minerals in particular. This is the only way that the US may give up on the idea of balkanizing Iran.

The other way is nuclear deterrence, which will never happen it seems.

 

[nang2]

Easy. Normalize relations with Israel. Recognize the state of Israel. Abandon all the support for resistance groups. Stop the nuclear program. Give 50% of Iranian oil to the US. Buy their crap and give complete monopoly of our 90 million people market to the West.

Why would they want to fight with us then? When they could get everything without a war. They fought for 12 days and the cost of it was over 8 billion dollars. They could get all of that for free without a bullet.

But the Ayatollahs are even too stupid for surrendering properly.

Well, not being able to fight properly usually means not being able to surrender properly, either.

 

[the saint]

The equation is not equal , taking one ship down and losing power plant in exchange is bad ...
at least hey should target the zion power planet and refinery not Ben Gurion air base .

well.. give them fattah-1 hypersonic missile. At least they are not known to have traitors and Mossad agents inside.

 

[nang2]

Sorry man, but your strategy will spell certain doom for Iran. Do you really think the US and the European will allow Iran to use nukes on the US and then leave one building standing in Iran? How Iranians do you want to die? 85-90 million Iranians......your war plan will wipe 50 million Iranians, is that an acceptable cost to you? This isn't Fortnite.

Target, not hit. Big difference. All nuclear powers have nukes targeting one another.