Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds



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After this whole phase is over in 2 months or so, this entire "opposition" (who ever they are) will be done once and for all. They will live the rest of their lives in absoluty mental agony and bitterness....I bet many of them will even renounce their Iranian-ness.

The people of Iran have finally waken up!
 
Not sure if it is true or not but this is the major reason for Standoff between US and Iran. US does not care about Iranian nukes, missiles or whatever, thats Israeli headache after 12 day war esp. US solely does not want RMB to spread in Iranian connected markets against Iranian oil freely flowing to China (upto ~20% of Chinese consumption). They previously tried to lure in IRI through Saudis (US basically) investment in hydrocarbon sector. IRI under Raisi refused that, then him and his FM died and tensions with US and Israel rose to sky.

I am feeling this Araghchi+Larijani nexus may offer opening some proportion of Oil to USD.

This could also be a trap for Iran by causing estrangement between Iran and China, with the false hope of investing in Iran, but putting sanctions back on for whatever reason they wish, like they've done before, whereby Iran is then left with nobody to sell its oil to! Iran should be able to decide whoever they wish to sell their oil.
 
The oligarchs in the Islamic Republic benefit from the US sanctions on Iran by circumventing them through their shadow fleet and money laundering in neighboring countries like Turkey and the Emirates. It's a multi-billion dollar business for them. They've made billions of dollars every year, while your average Iranian earns less than $200 per month.

Again, minimum wage in Iran at the moment is barely $87/month. Way behind the UN poverty line. Average salary is about $230 per month. Now imagine an oligarchy with links to the top of the power structure in Iran that earns billions of dollars annually. How long will people tolerate that?

Iran's oil income has become nearly halved since 2008. Average Iranian has lost about 78% of its purchasing power. Where has this extra 30% gone to?
I do not know man, Iran stood by us in our nation darkest times without any conditions just out of muslim solidarity and it was substantial and crucial for us, so it is painful for me also in extent that you are going through tormenting decades without clear perspective, in my outsider view you as country carries big chunk of muslim collective consciousness and is heart braking to read such discrepancies.
 
I do not know man, Iran stood by us in our nation darkest times without any conditions just out of muslim solidarity and it was substantial and crucial for us, so it is painful for me also in extent that you are going through tormenting decades without clear perspective, in my outsider view you as country carries big chunk of muslim collective consciousness and is heart braking to read such discrepancies.
Thank you for your kind words.

Iran in early 1990s and today are completely different countries though.
Heck, even Iran in 2008 and now are completely different countries.
 
Name them plz with proof. Larijanis daughter is the only one I can find information on.

Yes please say more with names and proof.

I listed around 10-20 highest influential ppl in Iran from past few years, tell me of there children being abroad too.
I think Shamkhanis daughter lives or lived in England somewhere
 
Thank you for your kind words.

Iran in early 1990s and today are completely different countries though.
Heck, even Iran in 2008 and now are completely different countries.
You gave martyrs for us and helped brotherly, kind words are least what individuals like me could do, we are still indebted to you.
All I can say other then that is there are not others outcomes for Iran now then to prevail upcoming war as sovereign nation everything else will be catastrophic,
After that hopefully time will come to address all hardships and troubles of ordinary people.
 
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I never said Iran Intl. was a credible source, did I?
And I never cited their 40K figure. But I still think the real figure is somewhere near the 5K-10K range based on the news I have received from my own friends.

I have a friend whose cousin was killed in the protests. I have another friend whose friends was killed in the protests. Both lived in Tehran, where protests were much less violent than in Lur-majority cities. When a random person already knows more than a single person that has been shot dead, it means that the number is probably much higher than 3K in all of Iran, just purely based on statistics and guestimation.

In comparison, during covid-19 outbreak, I knew only of 4 people around me that died due to covid. And covid killed over 120K people in Iran.
Fair enough. I lean towards believing the official number but it's not unreasonable to believe the real number is a bit higher. But I do take issue with the clearly inflated nonsense numbers put out by unreliable opposition sources.
 
Larijani's daughter, Ghalibaf's son, Khatami's daughter, Pezeshkian's son, Rafsanjani's family, do I need to say more?

According to the IR itself, over 4,000 high ranking officials have their families abroad or have dual citizenships. And the ones that do not live abroad like Shamkhani's son, have multi-billion business ties with regional and international countries like the UAE and Europe.

In addition to that, hundreds of Iranian officials received US green cards after signing the JCPOA. This is a fact that has been exposed by the USA and never challenged by the Islamic Republic, even confirmed unofficially by right-wing media who dislike Zarif.
4,000 seems high but it is indeed a lot, I know some of them personally in the UK. nice people, of course. mostly on useless masters programs trying to find ways to stay long enough to get residency rights etc.
 
The next Iranian National government taking shape and economics is at the top of the agenda...As I have mentioned before 14 million Iranian expats ready to come back and rebuild the country after the mullahs are gone.

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Trump eyes Iranian-American leaders as possible allies in regime transition​

06 February 2026 13:48

As the United States prepares for diplomatic talks with Iran, the White House is reportedly consulting prominent Iranian-Americans who could play a role in a transitional governance structure should Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei be toppled.

A source familiar with American efforts to explore alternatives to the current Iranian regime told The National that US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is closely involved. Kushner is helping assemble a group of Iranian-American business leaders to advise on the formation of a transitional entity to govern Iran in the event of a regime collapse, the source said. A second source confirmed Kushner’s involvement. The White House declined to comment.

The source added that the Trump administration is considering convening a meeting of Iranian opposition figures in Palm Beach, Florida, where the President’s Mar-a-Lago estate is located. “The meeting could happen as soon as this weekend, but logistics are complex,” the source said, noting that it was unclear whether the event would take place at Mar-a-Lago itself or nearby.

Trump is weighing multiple courses of action regarding Iran, each with political and geopolitical risks, as US officials prepare to meet for nuclear talks in Oman on Friday. “Deep concessions from Tehran on its nuclear program and other crucial issues, including the range of its ballistic missiles and treatment of its people, could provide Trump with a way to avoid military conflict,” the report noted.

However, the presence of an “armada” off Iran and prior statements that the US is “locked and loaded” mean that backing away from military action could inflame Iranian opinion. Many would interpret it as emboldening the regime, particularly after Trump encouraged Iranians to keep protesting, stating that “help is on its way.”

America’s Iranian diaspora, the largest of any country, numbers over 500,000, including many successful and influential business leaders advocating for the end of Khamenei’s regime and greater openness in Iran.

Among prominent voices pushing for regime change is Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran’s last monarch. Pahlavi has a wide network of supporters abroad, and his name was reportedly chanted during recent protests in Iran. He has described himself as a potential “transitional leader” and emphasized that he does not seek a broader political position unless chosen by the Iranian people. The extent of Pahlavi’s involvement in ongoing White House discussions remains unclear.

US delegation talks in Oman will be led by Kushner and special envoy Steve Witkoff, with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi representing Tehran.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt stressed that diplomacy remains Trump’s “first option.” She added, however, that the President “has many options at his disposal, aside from diplomacy, as the commander-in-chief of the most powerful military in the history of the world.” Leavitt said Trump’s demands include “zero nuclear capability” for Iran.

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has emphasized that for talks to be “meaningful,” they must address Iran’s ballistic missile range, sponsorship of terrorist organizations across the region, nuclear program, and treatment of its own people.

Meanwhile, Khamenei warned that any US attack on Iran would trigger a regional conflict.

Trump has relied heavily on trusted members of his inner circle, including Kushner and Witkoff, for foreign policy negotiations. Both were heavily involved in the Trump administration’s Board of Peace initiative for Gaza.

Analysts, however, remain skeptical about the outcome. Alex Vatanka, senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, said Tehran is portraying US willingness to return to talks as a sign of weakness. Trita Parsi, vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, warned that Israel’s lobbying for strikes could pressure Trump toward military action. “He’s just not going to have the energy to constantly push back against the Israelis,” Parsi said.

Edmund Fitton-Brown, former British ambassador to Yemen and now senior fellow at the Foundation for Defence of Democracies, echoed the caution. “It is hard to see Tehran conceding enough for the US to credibly claim a breakthrough. Military conflict is more likely than not, because I don’t think the US can walk away without major concessions without a significant reputational loss to the President,” he said.

By Vafa Guliyeva
Caliber.Az
 
4,000 seems high but it is indeed a lot, I know some of them personally in the UK. nice people, of course. mostly on useless masters programs trying to find ways to stay long enough to get residency rights etc.
It is too high....how a could I support a government that kills that many of its citizens in the street?
I know there were Mossad operatives in the street but the onus is on the govt to root them out, while protecting the legit protesters. I really doubt they even killed that many real operatives, these are mostly soft brained young kids who decided to tag a long and destroy property.....sure, catch them, try them, and jail them. But to gun people down in the street indiscriminately? I have a problem with that......as usual, it looks like incompetence. What they should have done was flood the street with undercover police dressed up as protesters, and took out the ones with the weapons, one by one.
 
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Israel and Hamas do not negotiate directly, but via Qatari mediators

why should Iran give these terrorists direct meetings? maybe if they show good faith Iran can consider it, but if it's not necessary then no need. it triggers the Americans because they can't understand Iran.



Looks like they did negotiate directly. And Hamas is not a state government it’s a militant group. Is that what 3000+ year old country of Iran is? I wouldn’t use the Hamas model as something to copy given how poorly the war ended for them.

Iran and some users on here are so concerned about optics and fake symbolic victories while the country has been rapidly approaching complete economic collapse.

50%+ of Iranians live in poverty, but hooray we didn’t talk to the Great Satan directly. That sure showed them. /s
 


Looks like they did negotiate directly. And Hamas is not a state government it’s a militant group. Is that what 3000+ year old country of Iran is? I wouldn’t use the Hamas model as something to copy given how poorly the war ended for them.

Iran and some users on here are so concerned about optics and fake symbolic victories while the country has been rapidly approaching complete economic collapse.

50%+ of Iranians live in poverty, but hooray we didn’t talk to the Great Satan directly. That sure showed them. /s

If russians can talk face to face with americans despite fact that thousands of them are killed by american weapons, there is no reason for Iran to reject that option too, rationality declining it could be that goal is to drag "negotiations" as much as possible.
On the other hand meeting enemy face to face is rare opportunity to catch up some details about him not possible by indirect talks.
 

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